The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

“Canter”

Home Forums Horse Racing “Canter”

Viewing 17 posts - 1 through 17 (of 30 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #1751863
    Avatar photoGladiateur
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5870

    Willie Mullins has the new favourite for the Champion Bumper after Love Sign d’Aunou won by a wide margin at Naas today.

    I note that the Racing Post’s comments described the win as being in a “canter”. The Post used the same word after Winston Junior’s easy victory at Ascot last Saturday.

    Would anyone here describe either of these successes as being in a canter? Both horses had to be shaken up and went into a gallop for some time before being eased down close home – although they passed the post travelling easily, they had to be shaken up at some point. I am old enough to remember when the racing papers (the Sporting Life, as well as the Post) would only use the word “canter” when a horse had never had to try at all, and I don’t think the term applies to either Love Sign d’Aunou or Winston Junior – they both won very easily, but not in a canter.

    Do I have a point, or am I just being a pedantic old curmudgeon (for a change)? 🤔

    #1751871
    ham
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3623

    Couldnt be having him, sectionals are dreadful, id be completely against him

    #1751874
    Avatar photoCork All Star
    Participant
    • Total Posts 10989

    I know what you mean. It is rather like performances being described as “impressive”. I remember when that word was seldom used in the in running comments. A horse had to do something really out of the ordinary to earn it. Now I see decent, solid enough performances described as “impressive”, when they are not.

    #1751876
    Avatar photoCork All Star
    Participant
    • Total Posts 10989

    According to Professor Wikipedia, a canter is generally a speed of 10 to 17 mph. Therefore, I suppose if we are being really pedantic about it, no horse ever wins in a canter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canter_and_gallop

    If the word is merely being used as a slang figure of speech within racing, what would constitute a canter? The jockey not moving a muscle? Not having to shake the reins? Not having to use the whip?

    #1751878
    Avatar photoGladiateur
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5870

    “The jockey not moving a muscle? Not having to shake the reins? Not having to use the whip?”

    That’s certainly what it used to mean in the 80s – it meant winning without coming off the bridle at all.

    #1751879
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
    Participant
    • Total Posts 7848

    He’s pretty exposed for a champion bumper horse …

    #1751893
    Avatar photoRefuse To Bend
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3792

    Unless the horse was tying up I’m not sure why he decided to push and shove anyway.

    The more I know the less I understand.

    #1751896
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
    Participant
    • Total Posts 7848

    An example would be The New Lion in the Challow ….

    #1751898
    Avatar photoRefuse To Bend
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3792

    I was about to say the same thing.

    The more I know the less I understand.

    #1751899
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
    Participant
    • Total Posts 7848

    …. Great minds …

    #1751901
    apracing
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3961

    This is winning ‘in a canter’ :

    The runner-up had finished second in the Fighting Fifth, the third (btn 34L) finished a close third in the Xmas Hurdle, then won the Kingwell and the Champion Hurdle.

    #1751902
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
    Participant
    • Total Posts 7848

    AP was devastated by the lose of that horse , the French Furze was tough as teak get made to look like a plater

    #1751904
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5248

    That would be my definition of a canter. Relkeel from 2 out….

    #1751905
    Avatar photoGladiateur
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5870

    I was going to post that, Ruby, but Maguire pushed Relkeel out close home. Everything up to the last few yards was the very definition of “canter”.

    #1751907
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5248

    I know Gladders, but that was the closest you can come to your definition of “canter”, especially in a very competitive handicap.

    #1751912
    greenasgrass
    Participant
    • Total Posts 8768

    According to Barry Connell you won’t have to wait long to see a nice example of a canter- it’s how Marine will win at the DRF according to him. Here’s a wee song for you Barry:

    #1751913
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
    Participant
    • Total Posts 33985

    Its a canter when Jamie Spencer blows you a kiss, and gives you a wave goodbye

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

Viewing 17 posts - 1 through 17 (of 30 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.