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  • #24922
    rob2005
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    The racing post website today reports that:

    "Richard Hughes will wear a helmet camera for all his mounts on British Champions Day at Ascot on Saturday. Channel 4’s Denise Large said: “The intention is to incorporate the footage within our post-race analysis."

    Does anyone know of the camera counts as part of his ‘weight’ or if essentially he will be ‘overweight’ in every race?!

    Yes the camera will be very light but in that ground in a close finish it might prove the difference between a win by a nose and a loss by a nose!

    #455162
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    The jocks weigh out holding all their kit and saddle so I’m sure the weight will be correct.

    As one who’s had a modern micro-camera inserted deeply into his urethra on a number of occasions, I can assure you of their relative lack of volume and density.

    Too much information?

    Mike

    #455165
    Anonymous
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    Very cool, love watching those jockey-helmet cam videos, quite a lot of them on youtube from the States and have been waiting for them to do it in some big races over here for a while now!

    #455170
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    The jocks weigh out holding all their kit and saddle so I’m sure the weight will be correct.

    As one who’s had a modern micro-camera inserted deeply into his urethra on a number of occasions, I can assure you of their relative lack of volume and density.

    Too much information?

    Mike

    A whole new take on the helmet cam :shock:

    #455178
    wit
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    The jocks weigh out holding all their kit and saddle ….

    not quite all – Rule D42(4):

    >>The Rider must put into the scale and include in his weight everything that the horse is to carry in the race, apart from

    42.4.1 skull cap,
    42.4.2 whip,
    …..
    42.4.17 number cloth <<

    http://rules.britishhorseracing.com/Ord … 98&depth=3

    don’t they put the skull cap and whip onto the nearby table as they seat themselves on the scale ?

    since there’s no mention of cameras or battery packs / transmitters in that 42.4 list of exclusions, and since they are not an integral part of the skull cap, presumably they will be detached from the skull cap to be taken with him onto the scale to be counted in his weight each time and then reattached – or maybe just weighed the once as presumably happens with the safety vest ?

    #455181
    Avatar photophil walker
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    Suppose Channel 4 have to try something to make Champions Day interesting this year

    #455183
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    The jocks weigh out holding all their kit and saddle ….

    not quite all – Rule D42(4):

    >>The Rider must put into the scale and include in his weight everything that the horse is to carry in the race, apart from

    42.4.1 skull cap,
    42.4.2 whip,
    …..
    42.4.17 number cloth <<

    http://rules.britishhorseracing.com/Ord … 98&depth=3

    don’t they put the skull cap and whip onto the nearby table as they seat themselves on the scale ?

    since there’s no mention of cameras or battery packs / transmitters in that 42.4 list of exclusions, and since they are not an integral part of the skull cap, presumably they will be detached from the skull cap to be taken with him onto the scale to be counted in his weight each time and then reattached – or maybe just weighed the once as presumably happens with the safety vest ?

    No mention either of bridles or headgear. A lead pipe weighing 7lbs could quite easily be concealed in one side of specially set up sheepskin cheekpieces. A stone overweight . . . I think I feel a plot for the next novel coming on!

    #455186
    wit
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    just before you start the novel, the full list of exclusions on the link is:

    42.4.1 skull cap,
    42.4.2 whip,
    42.4.3 bridle,
    42.4.4 rings,
    42.4.5 plates,
    42.4.6 blinkers,
    42.4.7 hood,
    42.4.8 visor,
    42.4.9 eyeshield,
    42.4.10 eyecover,
    42.4.11 anything worn on the horse’s legs,
    42.4.12 breast plate,
    42.4.13 breast girth,
    42.4.14 martingale,
    42.4.15 muzzle,
    42.4.16 neck strap,
    42.4.17 number cloth,
    42.4.18 sheepskin cheek pieces, and
    42.4.19 tongue strap.

    also for inspection purposes:

    42.2 The Rider must present to the Clerk of the Scales

    42.2.1 his safety vest, and

    42.2.2 any blinkers, hood, visor, eyeshield, eyecover or number cloth which he is to carry in the race but which are excluded from the scale (by virtue of Paragraphs 42.4.6 to 42.4.10 and 42.4.17).

    #455203
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    just before you start the novel, the full list of exclusions on the link is:

    42.4.1 skull cap,
    42.4.2 whip,
    42.4.3 bridle,
    42.4.4 rings,
    42.4.5 plates,
    42.4.6 blinkers,
    42.4.7 hood,
    42.4.8 visor,
    42.4.9 eyeshield,
    42.4.10 eyecover,
    42.4.11 anything worn on the horse’s legs,
    42.4.12 breast plate,
    42.4.13 breast girth,
    42.4.14 martingale,
    42.4.15 muzzle,
    42.4.16 neck strap,
    42.4.17 number cloth,
    42.4.18 sheepskin cheek pieces, and
    42.4.19 tongue strap.

    also for inspection purposes:

    42.2 The Rider must present to the Clerk of the Scales

    42.2.1 his safety vest, and

    42.2.2 any blinkers, hood, visor, eyeshield, eyecover or number cloth which he is to carry in the race but which are excluded from the scale (by virtue of Paragraphs 42.4.6 to 42.4.10 and 42.4.17).

    Very interesting. Many thanks

    #455234
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Waste of time giving it to Hughes he’ll just sit motionless for the entire race before making a burst with 200 metres left…… :|

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #455236
    Avatar photocormack15
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    Noseband? Maybe part of the bridle I guess.

    #455788
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Anyone got a link to this for the QE11?

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #455805
    Avatar phototbracing
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    Could only find one for the stayers, Nathan.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJNUfVHTnao

    #455865
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Thanks tb. I did see that one. Was hoping to catch the QE11 but cant find it, never mind.

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

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