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July 5, 2008 at 15:15 #171858
Let’s face it Firefox whatever anyone says you have your opinion which you have repeated ad-nauseum – if you feel so strongly about it why don’t you report it to the RSPCA – or are you just a barrack room lawyer happy to shoot their mouth off but not prepared to take any action.
In other words put up or shut up!!!
July 5, 2008 at 15:54 #171864O my god firefox do people swear at horses too, its an outrage.
try standing at the start on a cold wet windsor night meeting, you will hear them all swear and cussJuly 5, 2008 at 19:54 #171888Himself
That was agreat post. Agree with every word.
July 5, 2008 at 21:49 #171909The bond between horse and man exists because the horse accepts our assertion of dominance.
Caprio’s actions at Brighton were a social threat. He was testing our dominance and received the appropriate punishment – a slap on the nose. It’s not in our nature to hurt the animal, but when other responses fail to make an impact, we’re left with no choice but to assert some kind of physical dominance. Nothing wrong with swearing at a horse, either. They may not understand what we’re saying, but they do respond to human vocalization.
You can’t blame the past or current connections of the horse for its misbehaviour at a racecourse. The furore surrounding the correct actions of Mark Wilson are enough to prove that you can’t hit a horse in public, whatever the situation. How is the horse suppose to learn if it can’t be punished on the spot?
Mr Dascombe should be asked to play a more prominent role at the racecourse next time the animal runs.
The definition of intelligence has been the topic of debate for some time. I think as far as the human race is concerned it’s the ability to solve problems.
The horse is actually quite intelligent for an animal of its size. You could say, however, that most of the intelligence is ‘in its feet’. The ability it possesses to negotiate an obstacle at high speed is quite incredible. The horse can’t actually see the obstacle on take-off. It has to rely on a mental image it took a few strides before. Isn’t that ability to adapt, especially if a horse has to shorten its stride, a sign of intelligence?
Lab tests also offer an intriguing insight into equine intelligence. A horse confronted with 20 pairs of visual symbols was taught to choose a symbol from each pair that led to a reward. On retesting, the horse chose the correct card on every occasion. When retested twelve months later, the horse achieved the same results. His performance was superior to that of a donkey and zebra.
Of course, to question the intelligence of the horse would be generalising. Equine intelligence can vary depending on the breed. They do, as a species, possess incredible memories, which give them the ability to learn, or even the ability to learn to learn. This is surly an aspect of intelligence
July 6, 2008 at 00:09 #171913Let’s face it Firefox whatever anyone says you have your opinion which you have repeated ad-nauseum – if you feel so strongly about it why don’t you report it to the RSPCA – or are you just a barrack room lawyer happy to shoot their mouth off but not prepared to take any action.
In other words put up or shut up!!!
Sounds like a bit of a cop-out to me mate.
The guy (firefox) simply represents the ‘other’ side in a debate on a forum.
You argued just as willingly until….
July 6, 2008 at 07:35 #171929to have a debate its normal to expect the other party to at least try and make a logical argument. People who have never been around horses should not get into debate around how to control said horse.
I wouldn’t go on to a BNFL forum and try and tell an engineer how to run a nuclear reactor.
Just because you have a bet on a horse doesn;t mean you know anything about them. Which is coming across very strongly on many of the anti-posts on here.
July 6, 2008 at 10:07 #171945to have a debate its normal to expect the other party to at least try and make a logical argument. People who have never been around horses should not get into debate around how to control said horse.
I wouldn’t go on to a BNFL forum and try and tell an engineer how to run a nuclear reactor.
Just because you have a bet on a horse doesn;t mean you know anything about them. Which is coming across very strongly on many of the anti-posts on here.
There’s a world of a difference between running a nuclear reactor and how to deal with horses. Logical arguements have been made on this thread about why this type of incident should not have happened and why it should not be allowed.
We can’t have stall handlers punching horses at the racetracks. This isn’t rocket science…..it’s common sense.
Pete
July 6, 2008 at 11:27 #171953Himself
That was agreat post. Agree with every word.
Thank you, clivex.
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July 6, 2008 at 11:41 #171955………….praise indeed.
July 6, 2008 at 12:02 #171957There’s a world of a difference between running a nuclear reactor and how to deal with horses. Logical arguements have been made on this thread about why this type of incident should not have happened and why it should not be allowed.
We can’t have stall handlers punching horses at the racetracks. This isn’t rocket science…..it’s common sense.
Pete
Logical arguements have also been made in support of Mark Wilson’s actions.
It appears the horse only misbehaves on the racecourse. Does it mean that the horse isn’t in love with the game? Possibly.
Caprio has run 14 times. He’s either won or been placed on 8 of those occasions and finished outside the top six on just one occasion. That level of consistency is hardy the actions of a horse who dislikes the game, but one who may need a certain part of his anatomy removed. He clearly has some ability.
I’m not going to criticise those of you who believe that hitting a horse is wrong. You’re right and it shouldn’t be tolerated. I just think, given the circumstances, that Mark Wilson’s actions were necessary and not abusive.
July 6, 2008 at 12:06 #171958DOUBLE POST
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