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    Avatar photokasparov
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    It occurred to me that point to points might offer be old-fashioned ways to make money on horse racing. Presumably one has to analyse the form and then take on the bookies, who won’t have an exchange to guide their pricing. My main concerns are getting hold of form data and perhaps uncompetitive odds being offered. It looks like you can buy form data from Weatherby’s and maybe there are other sources. But I don’t know how competitive the PTP betting rings are. Anyway I’d be interested to know if betting on course for profit is viable.

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    Don’t know much about PTP Kasparov.
    I’d imagine with a lot less known about each runner bookies have no option but to bet to a big over-round. So suspect it’s even more difficult for any punter who’s not in the know. But Ian Davies will know more.

    Value Is Everything
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    When looking at the PTP form of some runners now running under rules, the overround in those races is HUGE!!!!

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    greenasgrass
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    When I told my mum I was going to my first P2P her only advice was “Keep your money in your pocket”.

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    There is definitely money to be made betting on Point-to-Points.

    The often significant margins on the boards at any one time don’t tell the whole story – the real margin is at odds laid – and with no exchange and final decs an hour before races it’s a rapid-chess battle of wits between punter and opinionated (they still exist) bookmaker.

    Shelfield Park is being live streamed tomorrow: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCUI5dvh1rsiQ1rrTFMLSARg

    It will be hosted by Racing Post Point-to-Point Editor and leading Pointing print/broadcast journalist Carl Evans with betting punditry from some fella called Ian Davies.

    Entries here: https://pointtopoint.co.uk/events/6801

    I am "The Horse Racing Punter" on Facebook
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ian_Davies_
    https://www.facebook.com/ThePointtoPointNHandFlatracingpunter/
    It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"

    #1588793
    St Gatien
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    It’s not as grass roots as it
    used to be, no pun intended.
    Be lucky.
    The Go Pointing online magazine
    is a nice read and free.

    #1588827
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    You might need to buy an anorak

    #1588840
    Colin Phillips
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    Ian, has quite a few spare ones, dear shepherd.

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    The definition of narcissism is watching a five-hour live stream recording when you get home just to see the seven one-minute segments you’re on….

    I am "The Horse Racing Punter" on Facebook
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ian_Davies_
    https://www.facebook.com/ThePointtoPointNHandFlatracingpunter/
    It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"

    #1589048
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    “We are often told how important it is to like yourself – well, we narcissists are simply taking it to the next level.” I.D.

    I’m a fully paid up member :yahoo:

    I even want to find the next level !

    #1589062
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    I’m forever striving to push the bar higher, gamble.

    If anyone ever calls me “The Arkle of narcissism” I can die a happy man.

    I am "The Horse Racing Punter" on Facebook
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ian_Davies_
    https://www.facebook.com/ThePointtoPointNHandFlatracingpunter/
    It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"

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