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Most of the good will during this most trying of seasons for Liverpool has been directed towards Rafa Benitez at the expense of the two American owners, but I wonder if this afternoon’s shocker against Barnsley is going to alter matters any.
Certainly there was a lesson to learn about not underestimating the opposition after the Havant & Waterlooville contest, and it appears not to have been learned here, with potentially wide-reaching consequences for the embattled Spaniard.
That’d be a real shame to see, but I do fear for him after this.
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Speaking as a Liverpudlian, I think Benitez should go but not for losing to Barnsley for the pure fact that Liverpool fans want the Premiership and Liverpool are never going to win the league due to Benitezs rotation policy.
If they can’t replace him with a better manager then leave things as they are.
Who’s available? Steve McLaren? Sam Allardyce (actually he might do a good job) ?
How long has Benitez been at Liverpool?
When will Liverpool fans realise they don’t have a god given right to win every game? They have had some catching up to do on the big 3 for some time now and that isn’t going to happen overnight; it certainly won’t come overnight if they push Benitez out.
For a team that has aspirations to League, FA Cup and Champion League success, large squads and rotaion are a necessity. Maybe some of his earlier Premier League match selections were, in hindsight, unfortunate. But today Liverpool had Kuyt, Crouch, Babel, Carragher and others playing that most other Premier teams would die for. So Gerrard and Torres didn’t start – so what?
If he’d played them both and one of them had got well and truly crocked, how many Liverpool fans would have said that it was too big a risk to have started them against lower division opposition in the FA Cup and that Benitez was wrong to have done so?Hi Danny, i understand your dissapointment, but with respect who if any manager has Won the Premiership with Liverpool since it became that, it’s a bit like Martin Jol who was Manager of the team i follow, before anyone say’s that Spurs will not win the premiership at the Moment i along with anyone else know’s that, but he has done more for them in the two years that he was manager than anyone for sometime, i had a large bee in my bonnet when he left.
Cheers.
Adrian.
Hi again i was doing my message at the same time as Insomniac and i have to agree with what he has said as well, i have a lot of respect for Rafa.
Cheers again.
Adrian.
I have mixed feelings about Benitez who has been manager at Anfield for nearly 4 years and during this time he has won the Champions League without ever looking likely to win the Premiership title which is clearly the prize that the Liverpool fans want. He seems obsessed with using his rotation policy which is much to the dislike of a lot of the Liverpool supporters and it has not yet provided consistency.
The only trophy left now this season for Liverpool to win is the Champions League ( not a bad one to get though and some would say it’s the number one to aim for ) and my guess is that if Liverpool get eliminated from it before the SF’s then Benitez will be shown the door.
Pete
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How can a team like Liverpool lose at home to Barnsley ?
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Because (Himself) they are a completely overated outfit and people still associate them with their dizzy days of winning everything. They simply are not in the same league as the big 3 any more and haven’t been for a while. Their CL win was a complete one off IMO. They will win nothing in the near future. There is more to a big succesful club than a few scarf waving. you’ll never walk alone singing Anfield Euro nights.
Because (Himself) they are a completely overated outfit and people still associate them with their dizzy days of winning everything. They simply are not in the same league as the big 3 any more and haven’t been for a while. Their CL win was a complete one off IMO. They will win nothing in the near future. There is more to a big succesful club than a few scarf waving. you’ll never walk alone singing Anfield Euro nights.
crizzy i agree Liverpool are overated, I have disagree with you saying their not in the same league as the big 3, this season in the league Liverpool have lost 3 games the same amount of games that Chelsea have lost and less than Man Utd who have lost 4 the only team who have lost less games is Arsenal who have only lost 1. Liverpools main problem is they have drawn to many games ( 11 i think ) IMO Benitez is to blame he has to play his best team in the premiership all of the time its clear for all to see his rotation policy does not work, im not saying Liverpool would have won all the games they have drawn this season if Benitez played his best team but i’d guess that they’d have won at least half the games, thus they’d have been a lot closer to the big 3 in the league.
Regarding the Champions League, I cant have that it was a one off Am i wrong or did Liverpool not go very close to winning it again last year ?
Here’s your chance to either save Rafa or sack him
Agree with a lot insomniac says.
Think that if its not the end for Rafa then it is certainly the beginning of the end. Having said that, heard that the last 15 minutes alone Liv could easily have scored 4 and maybe more including hitting the bar? If that’s right then that surely is down to the players and they have to hold their hands up for that, not the manager.
Liverpool fans are just about the worst in the country – and I’m one of them. Rather than cheer their team on, they would prefer to chant about our new owners (who have made few appearances since they bought the club) and continue to whine about events at Hillsborough some 19 years ago.
And I’m afraid the players’ excuse of ‘the uncertainty of the club’s future is unsettling’ is absolute nonsense. Their main concern is, apparently, keeping Rafa in his job so surely the best thing to do would be to play out of your skin? Results save jobs, and if they want Benitez to stay they should be doing everything humanly possible to help him.
There are too many egos at Liverpool at the moment, and too many overpaid nobodys. Charles Itandje has played half a dozen games and, in all honesty, isn’t all that good, but he’s still coining £30,000 a week and Jermaine Pennant, probably one of Benitez’s worst signings of last summer (Craig Bellamy aside), is on £65,000.
The fact is that Benitez has had over 3 years at Anfield now, has spent upward of £120m and still hasn’t formed a team good enough to challenge for the Premiership. He’s tactically poor, operates a ridiculous zonal marking policy, rotates players out of form (and can’t pick a team for the game at hand – why the hell didn’t Crouch start against Aston Villa?) and continues to play poor players; Kewell, Pennant, Finnan, Voronin and Kuyt (who I like, but he’s just not good enough as a striker) as examples.
Bentiez’s problem is the signings he’s made. Whereas United, Arsenal and Chelsea source decent, adaptable players, Rafa forks out million after million on absolute dross – Morientes, Pellegrino, Josemi, Nunez, Bellamy, Pennant, Garcia, Kromkamps, Voronin.
Get him out, get Thommo (Phil, rather than Derek) in.
Liverpool fans are just about the worst in the country – and I’m one of them. Rather than cheer their team on, they would prefer to chant about our new owners (who have made few appearances since they bought the club) and continue to whine about events at Hillsborough some 19 years ago.
i can not believe you posted this
dont think you can ever call yourself one a liverpool fan with this comment MATELetsGetRacing, If a member of your family or someone you where close to died at Hillsborough would you not "whine" about it ?
I agree with batman your not much of a Liverpool Fan making comments like that.
dont think you can ever call yourself one a liverpool fan with this comment MATE
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