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He used to go for months without falling or pullin up a horse.
There was the ride at Cheltenham recently on a horse who’d won last time out at Ludlow ( or similar course ). He held it up, went wide all the way…on bad ground on a much stiffer course.
I don’t know how many of these horses Geraghty is schooling but it’s a world away from rolling up to Seven Barrows and having breakfast with McCoy, schooling some fit and well prepared horses to riding less familiar horses for dozens of trainers, some with low strike rates.
Tony Martin’s had 3 winners in 6 months.
He’ll be on a big retainer with JP, so for all that winners are good he’ll be getting paid just as well. M Walsh & Barry wouldn’t be willing to be on ones saving them for another day if he wasn’t being paid well enough for it.
I don’t understand why McManus would want a retained rider anyway. Surely stable jockeys would be more familiar with his horses than one lad trying to spread himself. McManus must have horses with 50 different trainers
Trying to get stable jocks to plot horses instead of going onto ones which have a chance of winning, giving them a 7-10% cut of winnings, would be very hard to try and do on a daily basis.
Plus consistent feedback from the same group of lads you trust with advise & riding skill.
When Fitzgerald called it a day and Geraghty was number one at seven barrows, he was THE most reliable jockey around IMO. Before he got the job, Moscow Flyer, Big Zeb, Montys Pass to name but a few….he very rarely got it wrong and does anyone remember the JP supersub role he played on Jezki and More of That?
Since he has been JP’s retained rider, he rides a lot more chaff than he would like, has to ride to instruction as most of JP’s are plotted up and 80% of them are ridden out the back for either holding up or future coups. I believe he would still be at the top of the game if he remained with Henderson. Consistently better horses, riding them every day, and in all likelyhood, allowed to ride them the way he saw fit, as he’s the jockey and not the trainer.
By far one of the best jockey’s we have seen and although I agree to some extent regarding his decline, maybe physical, I also believe it is largely down to instruction and the quality of what he’s riding. I can’t recall him getting beaten when on the best horse in a race….
How is he supposed to give proper feedback, a stable jockey would know the horses better than Geragthy. Does anyone here reckon that Geragthy knows Tap Night better than Lucina Russell’s stable jockeys? Does he know Modus better than Nichols Stable jockeys? I really doubt it.
McManus has top horses (festival standard) with:
Elliot, Joseph o Brien, Willie Mullins, Eddie Harty, Henderson, Tony Martin, John Kiely, enda bolger, Paul Nolan, tom Mullins, tony Mullins, Gavin cromwell, jonjo o Neill, Phillip hoops, Anthony honeyball, Jessica Harrington, noel Meade, ted Walsh, Arthur Moore, eoin griffin, Alan king, Eddie o Grady, mouse morris, Rebecca Curtis, harry fry, JJ quinn, Neil Mulholland, tom George, Robert tyner, Henry de bromhead, Charles o brien.Then he has another shed load of trainers of ordinary horses: Tom taafe, JP Broderick, JP Dempsey, d Cullen, leahy, mags Mullins,Michael hourigan, martin brassil, pat fahy, Francis flood, b haslam, j Barry, j berry, conor o Dwyer, Padraig Roche. Phillip rothwell, Andrew McNamara, r o Leary, j motherway, Liz doyle, Lucinda Russell, Tim Vaughan.
Even at that I’ve probably left some out. Its an impossible job for Geragthy to be familiar with most of them horses which is why I reckon the stable jockeys would be better off riding them.
Ricci has all his with one trainer so its easier for ruby to be familiar, same with Barry Connell, Alan Fleming and Denis O Regan, gigginstown have only 5 trainers I think (o Brien, Meade, Morris, Elliot, de bromhead) and the Potts horses are only with 3 trainers (tizzard, Harrington and dreaper). Munir and Souede have Henderson, king, twiston-Davis, elliot and Mullins, so again easier for Jacob to be familiar with
And after saying all of that the issue I said above still exists.
JP has forgot more about this game than we know, i’d Trust him to know what he’s doing.
I cannot understand why people think JP has plot horses. He does not need to gamble at all and for what? He is rich beyond ordinary working peoples means so why lay a horse out to win maybe 200 thousand it means nothing to him.
I beleive all that nonsense to be a myth but I maybe wrong.
I agree I do not know why JP needs a retained jockey. what good does it do him. Nothing as far as I can see.He does not need to gamble at all and for what? He is rich beyond ordinary working peoples means so why lay a horse out to win maybe 200 thousand it means nothing to him
If I won Euromillions I’d still bet on horses. I’d be inclined to buy Grade 1 horses but maybe JP enjoys the fun of the plot itself and seeing if they can pull it off more than the actual money. After all, plot-spotting as a lowly punter with no contacts is quite fun so creating the plots must be entertaining too.
This thread has to be a parody?
He doesn’t plot but his just run round the back in 90% of Irish maiden hurdles?
Michael Tabor loves a punt and he’s worth hundreds of millions – it’s not about the money with these chaps.
I don’t think JP is that worried about plots, but these “plots” when they do happen, keep a lot of small stables going. If a very small trainer has a lowish grade JP horse I’d say he has pretty much licence to do as he likes in terms of plotting, but I really don’t think JP McManus cares too much if someone like Augustine Leahy or Phillip Rothwell want to plot a horse to win a 0-95 handicap hurdle at kilbeggan in August. It wouldn’t surprise me if JP let’s his trainers keep ALL of the prize money, particularly the smaller trainers.
I wonder how many trainers would be out of business if it wasn’t for the support of JP McManus?
The thing is, though, that many (not all, I grant you) small trainers like Austin Leahy can really train, given the right material, so it’s not as if they are charity cases. Giving them one or two bad horses, when you could give them something decent?? Damned with faint praise. The jockey thing just seems like a suitable match – rich owner pays for top jockey. It’s the fashion innit?
Plots have nothing to do with it, he’s just over the hill now. I’ve seen him give shocking rides to plenty of non JP horses over the past couple of years. The ‘festival Barry’ is now long gone. He used to be a man to rely on when the chips were down… He’s simply not anymore.
Age catches up with us all. The burning desire to succeed, when you’re sitting on a very fat retainer at the tail end of a great career… I’d say Barry, rightly is looking to look after himself a bit more as he heads towards retirement.
To be the best NH jockey, you must be braver than brave. He was, he was one of the very best in his pomp… But those days, are now long gone.
Jack Kennedy next?
Got to agree with the Nause here – Barry G looking weak, hesitant and struggling to judge the pace lately.
Frankie went through a similar spell on the flat three years ago and managed to turn it around, but Barry G certainly looks a shadow of his best at the moment.
Nobody said he is deteriorating because of plots?
I think he’s a class below what he was now, and he gave DDC a poor ride in the first today. Nothing to do with knowing the horses though, he’s just not riding as well as he used to. Can’t have him being blamed for Coney Island, however.
Why ? He attempted to ride it exactly as he had when winning that 3 runner race.
Coney Island was more prominent when he won a competitive DrinmoreGeraghty is nowhere near his best. His three wins in the last two weeks have been on very short priced favourites. Other recent wins on Buveur D’Air and Apples Shakira, also very short prices favourites
He’s been my favourite jockey for over a decade but, at present, he’s miles off it.
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