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- May 2, 2017 at 15:07 #1299188
ORDER OF ST GEORGE 5/2
Back him after he won race last year when you think he had class to be 3rd in the arc that a shows what a talented horse he is the way stayed in final furlong in gold cup last year was very strong at the line and recent run was a good one be much sharper come the big day.
May 11, 2017 at 16:10 #1300369Wall of Fire of Hugo Palmer’s is a horse I like, very strong stayer, wether he’ll run in a Gold Cup or not I’m not sure but still young enough for further progressing.
Running tomorrow at Chester of all places, can’t understand why as the tight track will not play into his strengths at all with his previous two wins coming at Doncaster and York, says it all really….
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May 12, 2017 at 21:36 #1300552As expected Wall of Fire was pushed along early and at regular stages throughout the race but stayed on strong for 4th from way back. He’s entered up for the Yorkshire Cup on Friday and that course will suit him much better than Chester.
I don’t know why I’m writing about Wall of Fire on the Ascot Gold Cup thread as he doesn’t seem to hold an entry for the race but does for the Hardwicke instead. My lord, who picks these races for this horse, heads or tails between the ownership…..
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May 16, 2017 at 15:56 #1301027Palmer on Wall of Fire
“He continues to run well and put in a career best effort in the Ormonde Stakes at Chester last week. He might go to the Listed race at York in two weeks time.”
Was a great effort considering the course was completely wrong for him….

Right, I’m keeping off the Gold Cup thread now, promise….!!
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May 17, 2017 at 10:48 #1301099You be back Nath
June 21, 2017 at 19:03 #1305426Surprisingly little chat for the race this year, but one of the few races where I’ve had a go. Went for Sheikhzayedroad at 14’s each way, and fairly confident he can make the frame again this time, he certainly seems in good enough form.
Harbour Law did me proud in The St Leger last season, and no surprise to see him bounce back here, and he’s a fair price at 28’s, but it’s another big price, in the shape of Prince of Arran at 40’s who I’ll side with. I’ve bet him 3 or 4 times in the past, and though his 2nd over 2 miles here the last time isn’t good enough to take this, I just think the trip might be enough to see him sneak a place. Happy to take the chance at the 40’s anyway.
June 21, 2017 at 19:04 #1305428Generally bookmakers seem to price up the shorter odds horses too big at Festivals these days.
Order Of St George is imo fairly priced @ Evens, I’m a big fan having even backed him in the Arc; but there is imo better value.
So is Big Orange @ 8/1, although he’d definitely need to rely on either having a tactical advantage from the front, or the fav disappointing.
Simple Verse is the one who has top class form @ 1 3/4 miles and could yet improve to callenge a top form Order Of St George. 8/1 is too good to ignore.
However, one that’s imo vastly over-priced is Sweet Selection @ 16/1. Hughie Morrison has an outstanding record with stayers and this horse is improving fast. Won the Ces over 2 1/4m before a comfortable win in the Sagaro on reappearance.I’ve had a big each way bet on Sweet Selection @ 16/1 with a good sized win bet on Simple Verse @ 8/1 and a smaller bet on Big Orange @ 8/1.
Value Is EverythingJune 21, 2017 at 21:26 #1305465I have never liked this race. It’s just like watching paint drying for me.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
June 21, 2017 at 21:52 #1305468I think Quest For More is overpriced here at 22/1. Ought to be closer to 10/1 IMO
While I’m not Spencers biggest fan, I’m not his biggest critic either – but I think missing George Baker is a big loss for the horse. I’m hoping this year Charlton has been teeing the horse up for this race. He’s much better than these odds are suggesting. He’s beaten Vazirabad on his own turf, he’s fairly versatile in race position, prefers better ground.
Really prefer these thunderstorms stay away
June 22, 2017 at 00:09 #1305495Generally bookmakers seem to price up the shorter odds horses too big at Festivals these days.
Order Of St George is imo fairly priced @ Evens, I’m a big fan having even backed him in the Arc; but there is imo better value.
So is Big Orange @ 8/1, although he’d definitely need to rely on either having a tactical advantage from the front, or the fav disappointing.
Simple Verse is the one who has top class form @ 1 3/4 miles and could yet improve to callenge a top form Order Of St George. 8/1 is too good to ignore.
However, one that’s imo vastly over-priced is Sweet Selection @ 16/1. Hughie Morrison has an outstanding record with stayers and this horse is improving fast. Won the Ces over 2 1/4m before a comfortable win in the Sagaro on reappearance.I’ve had a big each way bet on Sweet Selection @ 16/1 with a good sized win bet on Simple Verse @ 8/1 and a smaller bet on Big Orange @ 8/1.
I too have done Sweet Selection each way.
I think the favourite may be out battled up the straight from Big Orange, Simple Verse and Sweet Selection.
Think our girl will go well and is a big price. We know she will stay after all.
June 22, 2017 at 00:31 #1305498Great minds and all that… Sweet Selection each-way at 16/1. My only play in the race.
June 22, 2017 at 07:15 #1305537I have never liked this race. It’s just like watching paint drying for me.
Hear what you’re saying, it’s like a jumps race without the entertainment.
Anyway it’s big orange for me
June 22, 2017 at 08:17 #1305541Not a big betting race for me but it is the Gold Cup so a bet is in order. Many have flagged up OOSG as being no value due to him losing 3 of the last 4 of his races at odds on but I feel there were reasonable excuses for those defeats.
Irish St. Leger – Undermined the opposition and gave Wiclkow Brave too much rope
British Champions Long Distance – Came less than 2 weeks after a fantastic effort in the Arc
Vintage Crop Stakes – Reappearance run giving weight to an in form Torcedor, anyone backing him odds on needs to give themselves a slap.I backed him as a single and to win by more than 5 lengths last year so made only a small profit after a 3 length victory. Today I’m just going for 5/2 that he wins by 3 or more as Simple Verse and Big Orange have the credentials to cause an upset based on class and how the race will pan out tactically.
Order Of St. George 5/2 to win by 3 or more lengths
June 22, 2017 at 13:59 #1305602Harbour Law thoroughly unexposed and looks overpriced at around 40 now on Betfair.
June 22, 2017 at 16:23 #1305632Sweet Selection
June 22, 2017 at 16:28 #1305635What a finish. Hairs are on end.
June 22, 2017 at 16:31 #1305636What a hero that horse is. Big Orange better than ever and Michael Bell is having his best season for a long time.
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