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    Avatar photoyeats
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    It states in todays Racing Post that the "live" pictures from Ascot yesterday were 7 and a half seconds behind the "live" action.

    #445603
    steveh31
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    It states in todays Racing Post that the "live" pictures from Ascot yesterday were 7 and a half seconds behind the "live" action.

    cor·rupt
    /kəˈrəpt/
    Adjective
    Having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.

    So how are ATR making personal gain or money from having 7 secs delay?

    I think the word corrupt is not what you was looking for.

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    Glenn
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    How many people do you think would be lining up to hire boxes, and what prices do you think they would pay, if the free service wasn’t crippleware?

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    % MAN
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    Even the on-course feed at Ascot is some three seconds slower than live.

    The C4 coverage of the Eclipse last week was around ten seconds behind Turf TV and this afternoon the C4 July Cup coverage was seven seconds behind RUK.

    It’s a fact of modern life

    #445644
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    This is the reason and was posted elsewhere sometime ago:

    "The signals in broadcasting travel through so many circuits and links these days that it can literally take a few seconds to get through them all.

    In general, just based on how much work has to be done, radio would be faster than analog tv, and analog tv faster than digital. But you might be getting an analog tv feed that’s derived from the digital, and your radio might be getting their audio from a shared TV network feed.

    To give you an idea of how pervasive this is, the clock on the analog network TV channel I was watching on new year’s eve was a few seconds slow – and yes, I have an accurate time source! ( a WWV-sync’d clock with a "disciplined" oscillator )

    Satellite lag is certainly part of it, but it’s pretty fast: 22,500 miles and back is just a quarter of a second. You can see this effect on news interviews where the interviewee is off somewhere at the end of a satellite link – the interviewer asks a question and there’s just a little more than the usual polite wait between question and answer. Here the sat is adding a half a second, as the last syllable of the question has to get to the other end and then the first syllable of the answer has to come back.

    To make things more fun, your "live" network news show may be coming to you through *multiple* satellite bounces, even if you’re on cable or over-the-air."

    Regards
    :cool:

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    Surprised that in-running betting hasn’t matured into the zero-sum game it was always destined to become, gone to seed and rotted away; practised only by those quickest with finger and mouse on-course, circulating their collective wedge amongst themselves for ever more

    It’s been raised so often that it’s surely common knowledge that TV pictures suffer a delay; and it matters little if that delay is 2 seconds or 10 seconds if one is foolish enough to use them for an in-run bet: crippleware indeed

    Whether the excessive delay emanating from the string-driven ATR scout hut is at the behest of their payrollers and therefore ‘morally questionable’ I wouldn’t know but it wouldn’t surprise; this is racing and betting after all :?

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