An old boy I know swears this one makes money.

[Pompete]

Seagull/Wallace, the confusion here is that you are both right.

For while the above losing run is true, favourites won the first races at Doncaster (1.50) Newbury (1.35) & Kempton (1.45) and as the favourite won the third race the following day the 14 long losing run does not effect this system.

[Seagull]

Wallace

On the first 3 days you logged.
Jan 12 2008 Sawaah won the second race of the day.
Feb 12 2008 Ignotus won the 2nd race of the day
Mar 17th falls next Monday
If you meant Feb 17th Cape of Storm won the 4th race of the day

There may have been a long losing run on March 1st 2008.
However this stops after just one sole favourite has won. That has been made perfectly clear from the outset. So once that has been achieved the rest of the days results are insignificant to this ‘system’.

I listed Cryptic has winning the first race of the day on March 1st that was the 1.35 at Newbury.
That is indeed correct.
(Nodform Paula won the 1st race at Doncaster less than 20 minutes later)

I have made a few mistakes (but not to attempt to deceive) but that has only been in calculations in profit/loss and not what horse may have won or not.

I know he includes Irish racing and that is the reason I have also. He told me he thinks that depsite the larger fields in Irish NH racing they seem to have quite a good strike rate with favourites.

All I am attempting to do is to convey here what he is actually doing in real life. He assures me he has made the profits he claims.

This current year (from when I started posting the results) he is probably showing a profit at more than £1,464.67 as I am only using the official starting price but I know he tries to ‘nick’ a price if the favourite is shortening up in the live betting shows.

rgds,

[Wallace]

Seagull

12, 12 and 17 are the longest losing run in each of the first three months of this year. This followed on directly from the previous post about the average losing run per month of 14 when looking at a ten year period. I understand your point about this system stopping when a winner is found but it is important to look at the LLR of the group being bet.

I think there is some merit in this system and the key factors may be to do with Favs winning the early races on the card at a higher rate than when all races are considered.

The basics of incremental stakes, chasing previous losses and following short priced horses goes against the grain for me but this may indeed be the ultimate contrary system.

[dave jay]

The basics of incremental stakes, chasing previous losses and following short priced horses.

The long slippery slope to gambling addiction unfortunately.

[Seagull]

Thurs 13th March
ANY FAV
Albertas Run won the 2nd race of the day @4/1
profit on day £35.00
Bank to c/f +£1,502.35

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
It took until the 5th race before Home won @5/4
profit on day £50.00
Bank to c/f +£358.09

[Seagull]

Friday 14 March

ANY FAV
Red Scally won the 5th race @6/4
£80.on at 6/4 made a profit of £120.00
less previous losses totalling £75.00
profit on day £45.00

Bank to c/f £1,547.35

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Red Scally won the 1st race that fitted the filters

profit on day £15.00

Bak to c/f £373.09.

[Seagull]

Sat 15 March

ANY FAV
Summer Wind won the 1st race @7/2
profit on day £17.50

bank to c/f +£1,564.85

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Nosferatu won 1st 2/9

profit on day £2.20

Bank to c/f +£375.29

[Seagull]

Sunday 16th March

ANY FAV
Give It Time won the 5th race of the day @6/4

profit on day £45.00

bank to c/f £1,609.85

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Give it Time won 3rd race that fitted above rules

profit on day £30.00

bank to c/f £405.29

[Seagull]

Mon 17thMarch

ANY FAV

Double Dizzy easily won the 7th race @6/4
stake would have been £320.00
winnings would be £480
profit on day £165.00

Bank to c/f £1,774.85

FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Double Dizzy won the 2nd race @6/4
profit on day £20.00
Bank to c/f £425.29

[Nathan Hughes]

Hi Seagull

Keeping a close eye on this system.profits look good and i think with an unlimated amount of cash to play with would get the bookies and layers worried.

however if i was on yesterday ANY FAV i would be starting to worry if double dizzy had lost with the jump up in stakes.

best of luck cheers…..

Blackbeard to conquer the World

[Seagull]

Nathan,
Never seen your name on here before so welcome.

There is enough on the kitty from winnings to allow more bets without touching the original stake. So on Monday if it had got to the 3.30 race Hurricane Hen the 11/8 fav won Thebes the fav won the 4.00 race @7/4.

Tuesday 18th March

ANY FAV
Tamandot won the 3rd race of the day @15/8
profit on day £22.50

bank to c/f £1,797.35

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Trigger the Light won the first that fitted above filters
4/6 won £6.67

bank to c/f £431.96

[Nathan Hughes]

Seagull

The system is in a good position with the winning profits and has leeway for a losing steak, if someone had started from 17th march they would have to of been brave and patient with their original stakes declining.
with the right kind of funds to start with and a set losing limit i think the system is well worth a gamble.

Blackbeard to conquer the World

[Seagull]

Wed 19th March

ANY FAV
Dansimar won the 1st race of the day @8/13
profit on day £3.07

bank £1,800.12

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Dansimar won the 1st @8/13
profit on day £6.15

Bank to c/f £438.11

[Seagull]

thursday 20 march

ANY FAV
Island Flyer won 2nd race of the day @evens
profit on day £5.00

bank to c/f £1,805.42

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Island Flyer won the 1st that fitted the filter
profit on day £10.00

bank to c/f £448.11

[Seagull]

Fri 21 no racing

Sat 22nd March

ANY FAV
Toms Laughter won 2nd race @4/1
profit on day £35.00

bank £1,840.42

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Mullien won 2nd race @7/4
profit on day £25.00

bank to c/f £473.11

[Seagull]

Sun 23rd March
ANY FAV
Luxie won the 3.05 Cork @5/2
This was the 9th race on the day
stake on 9th race £1,280.00
won £3,200.00
less 8 losers stake £1,275.00

profit on day £1,925.00

Bank to c/f £3,765.42

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Riquez Dancer won 1st race @10/11

profit on day £9.09
bank to c.f £482.20

[Seagull]

Just had a telephone call and he got on ok Sunday by splitting stakes in two shops but Ladbrokes will no longer take any bets.

He said he has lined 3 shops up very close to each other in same street in Hove and will carry on there.

[Author]

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