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  • #1529234
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Worryingly there seems to have been an increase in cases in Britain in the last week.

    A small increase over recent days but overall, over the last two weeks, a stabilization around 6,000 daily cases which may slowly reduce further or slowly increase again now the schools have gone back: time will tell

    The graphs of this pandemic in the UK here:
    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

    are mathematically rather pretty as they provide an excellent example of rapid exponential growth (R-Number greater than 1) followed by slower exponential decay (R-Number less than 1). That is: cases, hospitalizations and deaths increase rapidly, peak, and then tail off slowly: the skewed Bell Curve typical of pandemics

    How many more bells we’ll have to endure is anyone’s guess

    Statisticians must be feeling both vindicated and smug

    #1529237
    moehat
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    It’s difficult to know who to believe when people like Whitty were initially going for a herd immunity strategy and even JVT [probably the only one of them that I do respect] said last year that mask wearing was a waste of time.

    #1529269
    Avatar photoPurwell
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    Who is JVT?

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #1529274
    Colin Phillips
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    I believe its Jonathan?? Van Tamm – an expert!

    #1529278
    Avatar photoIanDavies
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    JVT has acquired a bit of a “man of the people” hero image in the media ever since he was the only scientific adviser to make it publicly clear he disapproved of Dominic Cummings’s actions and didn’t buy his excuse either.

    Revealing he was an active Burton Albion season ticket holder didn’t hurt either.

    But he’s made as many U turns as any of them tbh and frequently defended the IMO indefensible.

    The Pandemic has been appallingly handled in the UK – the per capita death toll speaks for itself, density of population notwithstanding.

    BUT the roll out of the vaccine is exceeding all expectations and is the one thing the UK is proving a true world leader on.

    In fact, it might just have saved Boris Johnson’s bacon.

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    #1529317
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    On the plus side, having not been able to go overseas on holiday for a year now has saved me at least £10k, so every cloud etc.

    #1529322
    Avatar photoDrone
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    I think it’s Boston United, though Burton Albion would have boosted his ‘man of the people’ credentials equally well :-)

    His rather tortured football analogies are quite amusing but a tad patronizing

    Still, he, Whitty, Vallance et al are good guys who’ve been on a learning curve too, just less steep than that the rest of us have been on

    A year ago, I don’t think they or anyone could have foreseen the rapidity with which vaccines have been introduced, so criticizing now their words made back then serves little purpose

    We are going for ‘herd immunity’ anyway, though by mass vaccination rather than by mass natural selection

    #1529557
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    Yeah good guys
    my dear Drone
    on a learning curve
    That keeps us home
    They wear white hats
    The dead wear black
    We’re all ears to condone
    anything Whitty proposes
    Ring a ring a roses
    a pocket full of posies
    Atishoo atishoo
    Just stay out of town

    #1529561
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    I stand corrected Drone, but, yes, you clearly get my drift.

    Revealing you’re a football fan gives you vestiges of being a “regular guy” but being an active season-ticket holder at a non-Premier League Club arguably seals the deal.

    And he milks it for all it’s worth.

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    #1529591
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    I refused the Astra Zeneca vaccine about a month maybe a bit more ago. I booked myself in for the Pfizer which was a five day wait at the same hospital. I did some research and found the production costs were about five times more for the Pfizer and it was genetic based whereas the AZ was taken from monkeys blood. I was a bit concerned about european supply of Pfizer being restricted after I had the thing. AZ seemed to offer slightly better first dose protection also. Anyway that’s my story for what it is worth.

    #1529596
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    I see Boris Johnson has admitted he was wrong to delay the lockdown nine days ( March 14 to 23rd.). He was given the Imperial College research on the 14th which escalated the death rate of the false figures he was working on. The death rate of the first wave doubled with that nine days of him sitting on his hands. It included the period when huge crowds gathered at Cheltenham.

    #1529619
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    The Govt policy is that you cannot choose which jab you get ( just read this)- I was a bit surprised the hospital allowed me to change, however I can be extremely curteous and persuasive. I would not have minded if they had said ‘ no you can’t do that’. Another thing that pointed me towards the U.S. jab was the fact I knew two NHS workers who had both received the Pfizer. This did not include the nurse friend who contracted the virus – She is ok and presumably she has now had the vaccine.

    #1529902
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    Had my Astra Zeneca jab.
    No worries. :good:

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    #1529912
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    I waited for my GP to contact me for my jab as opposed to going to one of the seven vaccination centres here in MK, for the simple reason I know they cannot store the Pfizer one.

    So there are ways of choosing which jab you have if you’re canny about it.

    I’m finding all this EU fuss about the AZ jab and clotting quite bemusing – after all the figures for the Pfizer jab are broadly similar but that isn’t being suspended – sounds like petty politicking from the EU to me.

    #1529941
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    Tabloid nonsense. Quite simply, the EU has not suspended use of the AZ vaccine. Individual EU countries have, as has non-EU Norway, but that’s up to them as sovereign states.

    The EMA (an agency of the EU) have said that they remain ‘firmly convinced’ that the benefits of the AZ vaccine outweigh ‘the risks of these side effects’.

    #1529964
    clivexx
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    Paul is right. It is pure politics as even the Italians have admitted

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2B80KK

    Let’s see which countries drag their feet reversing the suspension. Pick the three most anglophobic and there you will have it

    #1529981
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    Sovereign State and EU membership are mutually exclusive, you cant have both (and Norway is just a lickspittle doing what its told, it may not be a member but its bound by their rules, the worse of both worlds)

    Spot on Clive and read the comment as – ‘we’ll start using the vaccine again when we get more supplies, after we totally fu**ed up our original contracts and ordering process.’

    For all the fu*kcluster we’ve had with the COVID response in the UK, the one thing we have got right is the vaccination rollout.

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