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Yes, here in Hampshire one had one’s Covid jab today.
A thoroughly pleasant experience, but I had to ask about the as yet unused police restraint gear lying around, close to what looked like a rather gruesome chair, complete with wrist and leg straps.
“What’s that for?” I asked.
“Oh, it’s for when they drag Tank in – kicking and screaming – for his jab,” came the reply.
“No coffee and biscuits for him – there’s always one.”
True story (well, apart from the words).
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They will never take me alive…
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Well, I expect they will eventually because there will be no real choice, sadly.
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Hope you’re feeling ok tomorrow, Ian. Some people have had quite bad reactions to the miracle cure.
Imagine going to the unskilled jabber with not a bother on you, but waking up the next day feeling like death
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Goodnight playmates. Sleep well x
Stop being disrespectful, Tank. The people giving these jabs have all been well trained. No “unskilled jabber”s.
What “bad reaction” Tank?
NHS Quote:
So far millions (over 19 millions) of people in the UK have been given the Covid 19 vaccination and reports of serious side effects such as allergic reactions have been very rare. No long term complications have been reported. End Quote.Allergic reactions very rare. No long term complications… And what is this awful vaccine doing? Keeping people alive!
…The Covid 19 virus itself has – oddly enough – had quite a bad reaction…… with over 120,000 UK citizens dead.
Stop trying to scare people.
Value Is EverythingAn entirely predictable response from TRF’s resident Tanker. People like you love to tell us that the mortality rate of Covid is a fraction of a percentage point in order to dismiss concerns. What percentage have had ‘quite bad reactions’ as you put it?
Neither has anybody has ever described this, or any other vaccine, as a ‘miracle cure’. A vaccine by its very definition is not a cure. I’m beginning* to think that you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about.
*only joking, it’s been obvious for months.
There is no need to be abusive, Richard.
Tank is entitled to his views, even those I/others might strongly disagree with.
My “jabber” seemed highly skilled to me, tbh, Tank.
My Dad once gave me a good piece of advice: “Given the choice between a GP and a Practice Nurse for an injection, choose the nurse every time as it’s a big part of their full-time job and they are likely to be far more proficient than the GP.”
I felt fine at the time, fine all day and fine now.
And I am now a lot less likely to catch it and/or pass it on to anyone else.
If we want to interact with society, there are times when we need to do the right thing by society.
Refusing the jab is IMO an infinitely more dangerous anti-social act than, say, throwing a brick at a window of a public library would be.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"My Dad once gave me a good piece of advice: “Given the choice between a GP and a Practice Nurse for an injection, choose the nurse every time as it’s a big part of their full-time job and they are likely to be far more proficient than the GP.”
When I was with the ambulance service we would get updates en-route via a computer terminal in the cab.
If attending a trauma call, like an RTC or something similar the one thing we never wanted to see come up on the terminal was “GP on scene” ….. no disrespect to GP’s but unless they are BASICS trained they are generally worse than useless in trauma cases.
Similarly most doctors, again unless trauma trained or an anaesthetist, are useless at stabbing and jabbing a vein – give me a nurse or paramedic anytime. I once had a doctor have six attempts to cannulate me, until I suggested he went to do something else instead. Next attempt, by a nurse, was in first time.
I would take issue with Tank’s “unskilled jabber” comment. The vaccine is delivered intra muscular as opposed to in a vein, so the training for administration is not as intense as it would be for cannulation or phlebotomy for example.
However the training before certification is given is still intense, both theoretically and practically and more people fail than pass.
I’ve had the Oxford vaccine and no great side effects, a sore arm about 24 after the jab and slight cold like symptoms 48 hours afterwards but nothing a gram of paracetamol didn’t sort out. To be honest I’ve has far worse reactions from the annual flu jab. (Although don’t get me started on the typhoid vaccine – I thought I was going to die after that one – I felt so bad I actually did want to die)
Most vaccines are going to cause minor side effects in most people – after all a foreign body is going to be introduced in the body.
I once had a doctor have six attempts to cannulate me
I had that once, thought I was in safe hands but after about 4 attempts and being told it was my veins that were to blame I half fainted and told him not so politely to please stop.
A nurse came along 20 minutes or so later and managed to do it 1st time and I hardly even felt it.Charles Darwin to conquer the World
Paul’s posting tends to support my view, I feel.
One thing I have always had in my life is a healthy respect for those who can do what I cannot – or even will not – do.
I respect specialists, whether they be plumbers, electricians, specialist medical staff or anything else.
I consider myself fiercely independent and individualistic, but there are times when I know when to shut up, listen and basically do as I am bloody well told for my own good, as well as the good of others.
Sumption and other crackpot libertarians just don’t get it and never will, but just occasionally we all need to fall into line for the greater good of all of us.
A Perceived Infringement Of Your Civil Liberties is highly unlikely to kill you – but Covid has and will continue to kill you and others.
So be good chaps, libertarians, just this once – do as you’re told.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Paul’s posting tends to support my view, I feel.
I do 100%
I suspect nobody is more of a libertarian than I am but even I accept there are occasions when “needs must” and this is one such occasion.
Having a short-lived reaction to vaccination is a positive sign as it indicates that your immune system is functioning well, has identified the presence of a foreign body and is going about its business of developing antibodies
It’s as well to remember that the ‘feeling unwell’ symptoms you get from viral infections be that the common cold, flu, covid whatever are due to the immune system trying its hardest to rid your body of the virus, not the virus itself: raised temperature and fever being the most obvious symptoms of the raging battle
It’s when the immune system becomes overwhelmed and can cope no more with the rapidly multiplying viruses that severe complications and possibly death ensue
This is a good video, narrated unfortunately by an american with what has become the seemingly obligatory quacking enunciation; but it isn’t quackery
Lest anyone think I’ve cherry picked to confirm bias then just google ‘vaccine side effects good thing’ or some such and wade through the reams of literature out there
Rather belatedly I had my armful today. Being a good law abiding citizen I waited until being ‘invited’ by post rather than jump the gun by booking on line. Unfortunately the letter was a week late so I must be about the last 64yo in the country to have been jabbed
No prob, nice to have it done though
Supremely well organised in high-end portakabins next to Tesco’s carpark: in and out within 20 minutes and I departed with a gushing ‘thank you for all your hard work and I think your 1% pay rise is disgraceful!!’
Happy(ish) days
Superb, Drone.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Good to hear, Drone. Did they advise you to take paracetamol? They seem to be doing that which, imo makes people then think that they’re going to need it. I stated quite firmly that I did not intend to take anything. I guess it’s different if you have to go into work the next day but as I’m still in hibernation that doesn’t apply to me. If Dr John tells me not to take paracetamol I don’t take it. Simples.
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