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    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    Scenario: You’re at the bookie’s counter about to place a bet. The guy, a stranger, in front of you has passed his slip over showing £20 to win on a virtual horse race but, unlike him, you notice that the race has just gone off seconds before the clerk has passed it through the till. You watch the race and you see that the other punter throws his slip on the floor and walks out, believing he has lost. Now you know from experience that the payout till will deem the bet to have been placed after the off and marked up as ‘refund stake’.
    Would you:-
    (a) pick the ‘losing’ slip up off the floor and present it to the clerk in order to get the £20 refund?
    (b) pick it up and inform the clerk that it belongs to someone else?
    (c) ignore the slip on the floor?

    #267052
    Avatar photoHimself
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    Without hesitation, B !

    I would also leave a note for said punter advising him that betting on virtual racing is for wallies. :lol:

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #267053
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    If you are unable to catch the person who dropped it, ask the girl behind the counter if she knows him. If yes then leave the ticket with her. If not, see if anyone else knows him. If not, claim the ticket yourself and donate winnings to a racing charity.

    Value Is Everything
    #267054
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    Without doubt (b).

    (a) is dishonest and (c) is ‘passing on the other side’.

    #267059
    Avatar photoExpect To Win
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    *Non of the above*

    Could have gave him the nod at the counter when it was first realized that the bet was void, at the very latest when he threw the ticket to the floor. Anyone letting things get that far would be looking towards "a", or why wait?

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    Or you could trust the bookmaker to repay the customer the next time he entered the shop? :mrgreen:

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    #267100
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Geez,its obvious you hand the ticket over,take the £20 and stick it back on Somersby for the Arkle!

    #267117
    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    Well done APK … then when it wins, next time you see the other punter you give him his £20; he’s very grateful and slips you a fiver and you pocket the winnings with a clear conscience.
    Sorted, except somehow it rings a few bells with me about borrowing from Peter to pay Paul and yet ashamedly I rarely got round to the Paul bit….

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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Well done APK … then when it wins, next time you see the other punter you give him his £20; he’s very grateful and slips you a fiver and you pocket the winnings with a clear conscience.
    Sorted, except somehow it rings a few bells with me about borrowing from Peter to pay Paul and yet ashamedly I rarely got round to the Paul bit….

    No Ken,if someone is stupid enough to stick a score on a bloody cartoon horse he deserves to lose it!I would say nothing the next time i saw him and my conscience would still be clear!The only other punter i despise are those that stick pound after pound in a one armed bandit to watch 3 cherries spin round! The word discipline springs to mind!

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    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    A counter clerk recently pointed out to me a guy who plays three machines at the same time and puts in £50 after £50 in each. I just find it incredible but then again each of us to our own addiction.
    Whenever I’ve been approached by staff to have a free play on the machines to win a prize for the top score of the day I always refuse saying, "I’ve got enough addictions as it is thanks without adding to them thanks."

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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Addictions is a strong word Ken,do you want to elaborate?

    #267229
    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    Addicted to eating, breathing, sleeping and certainly today to posting on this forum when I could have been far more productive doing other things; to name but a few. Discretion being the better part of valour, enough me thinks. Although it will not harm anyone to admit that for a brief spell I was addicted to Sprint Valley and Steepledowns until it became all too obvious that half the jockeys were on the take. I could tell some stories about the fiddles at Portman Park but some of my best friends are trainers there so best that I keep my mouth shut. Suffice to say that even the stewards turn a blind eye to horses being pulled.

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    Well done APK … then when it wins, next time you see the other punter you give him his £20; he’s very grateful and slips you a fiver and you pocket the winnings with a clear conscience.
    Sorted, except somehow it rings a few bells with me about borrowing from Peter to pay Paul and yet ashamedly I rarely got round to the Paul bit….

    No Ken,if someone is stupid enough to stick a score on a bloody cartoon horse he deserves to lose it!I would say nothing the next time i saw him and my conscience would still be clear!The only other punter i despise are those that stick pound after pound in a one armed bandit to watch 3 cherries spin round! The word discipline springs to mind!

    Let me know if you’re going to become patronising, ATPK.

    Zip

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    For £2: C.
    For £20: A.
    For £2000: B.

    :lol: :wink:

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    The only other punter i despise are those that stick pound after pound in a one armed bandit to watch 3 cherries spin round! The word discipline springs to mind!

    I have a sure fire system for bandits & video poker. I go into my local arcade with a sprinkling of spare change (let’s say 60p) with the mindset ‘what do I want without breaking into another note?’ Let’s say in this example I want a cheesburger happy meal (£1.99), I stick my 60p in & once I’ve won the £2 I walk out again. It’s surprising how often this works. It’s people who win a few quid & put it all back in in the vain hope of a couple more pounds that I despise.

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    Avatar photoMiss Woodford
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    There’s an entire class of regular racegoer we see at the track called "stoopers", who collect the discarded tickets in hopes of finding a winner. They wait until after the nightcap, and at some tracks there’s an unspoken agreement between them and the janitors to not clean up the tickets until the stoopers have gone through them. Surprisingly, this can be very profitable, and I’ve heard stories of people winning thousands of dollars from it. Easier than actually handicapping the races :) .

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