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Can homecoming queen follow up in the Irish 1000 Guineas or was it a fluke last time.
This might sound silly but I think it was a fluke in the English 1000 Guineas. I mean nothing in her previous form suggested she was a 10 length guineas winner. She was an exposed front runner and I think everything just went right for her on the day and the other runners under-performed.
On that basis I think 5/6 is poor value considering she POSSIBLY fluked her last race.Should be a very interesting race though
On the other hand it is a weak field and wont take much winning.Thoughts??
<b>DEEMAN</b>
Can homecoming queen follow up in the Irish 1000 Guineas or was it a fluke last time.
This might sound silly but I think it was a fluke in the English 1000 Guineas. I mean nothing in her previous form suggested she was a 10 length guineas winner. She was an exposed front runner and I think everything just went right for her on the day and the other runners under-performed.
On that basis I think 5/6 is poor value considering she POSSIBLY fluked her last race.Should be a very interesting race though
On the other hand it is a weak field and wont take much winning.Thoughts??
DEEMAN
Most interesting race of the season for me. I get the feeling that if HQ hadn’t had 13 races before the Guineas, she would now be being talked about reverentially.
There’s a few reasons why I like the form: firstly, I’m in no way a ‘time’ person but the fact remains that she won her Guineas two seconds faster than Camelot won his the previous day. Even for time-sceptics like me, that’s impressive.
Secondly, she clearly quickened into the dip which is a hell of a trick off the blistering pace that she herself was setting.
Thirdly, the (relative!) proximity of the obviously smart Maybe looks like a good sign. If Maybe had bombed out and finished last, it would be easier to crab the form; but she ran a creditable third which gives it a solid look. Note: La Collina is third fav for tomorrow and yet was beaten 11+ lengths!
Finally, I cannot believe that
everything
else in the race was undercooked etc or underperformed. If that was the case, some rather wealthy owners should consider moving their animals to more competent trainers!
We’ll find out…
Mike
Got little doubt Homecoming Queen is the real deal, or at least she is given the conditions on show at Newmarket… Being allowed the lead with soft ground. Remains to be seen if she’s as good if taken on up front and/or on firmer ground. Hope she is, we’ll see.
Value Is EverythingI won’t be backing Homecoming Queen at those prices.
It was a strange day at Newmarket 1,000 Guineas as the horses had been allowed to cool down at the start due to the sad fate of Gray Pearl who went down in the stalls.
As we have seen today with Power (who beat just one at Newmarket 2,000 Guineas) storming home in the Irish equivalent, things can turn around very quickly and I think she is worth opposing even in this weak field and will be having a little each way on SAMITAR currently 22/1 to spring a surprise.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...I won’t be backing Homecoming Queen at those prices.
It was a strange day at Newmarket 1,000 Guineas as the horses had been allowed to cool down at the start due to the sad fate of Gray Pearl who went down in the stalls.
As we have seen today with Power (who beat just one at Newmarket 2,000 Guineas) storming home in the Irish equivalent, things can turn around very quickly and I think she is worth opposing even in this weak field and will be having a little each way on SAMITAR currently 22/1 to spring a surprise.
This could be one of those where we are wondering how the hell we let the runaway winner of the 1000 Guineas go off evens in a worse race.
Agreed!! Ignore the Guineas and she’s still the best horse in the race on form.
The only question is can she hold her form but looking back at the consistency of her 2yo form I can see no reason why she shouldn’t.
looks nailed on to follow up
I won’t be backing Homecoming Queen at those prices.
It was a strange day at Newmarket 1,000 Guineas as the horses had been allowed to cool down at the start due to the sad fate of Gray Pearl who went down in the stalls.
As we have seen today with Power (who beat just one at Newmarket 2,000 Guineas) storming home in the Irish equivalent, things can turn around very quickly and I think she is worth opposing even in this weak field and will be having a little each way on SAMITAR currently 22/1 to spring a surprise.
This could be one of those where we are wondering how the hell we let the runaway winner of the 1000 Guineas go off evens in a worse race.
Well at least you can stop wondering now
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Yeah I thought Homecoming queens Guineas win was a fluke, dropped out very tamely.
The three outsiders come home in the first 3 lol
Shocking race, the form is worthless.But fair play to Samitar who travelled like the winner all the way, hosed up in the end.
Deeman
I won’t be backing Homecoming Queen at those prices.
It was a strange day at Newmarket 1,000 Guineas as the horses had been allowed to cool down at the start due to the sad fate of Gray Pearl who went down in the stalls.
As we have seen today with Power (who beat just one at Newmarket 2,000 Guineas) storming home in the Irish equivalent, things can turn around very quickly and I think she is worth opposing even in this weak field and will be having a little each way on SAMITAR currently 22/1 to spring a surprise.
This could be one of those where we are wondering how the hell we let the runaway winner of the 1000 Guineas go off evens in a worse race.
Well at least you can stop wondering now
Fair play to you.
I think the people writing off Homecoming Queen’s English Guineas form will be surprised once she has had the benefit of a break.
I won’t be backing Homecoming Queen at those prices.
It was a strange day at Newmarket 1,000 Guineas as the horses had been allowed to cool down at the start due to the sad fate of Gray Pearl who went down in the stalls.
As we have seen today with Power (who beat just one at Newmarket 2,000 Guineas) storming home in the Irish equivalent, things can turn around very quickly and I think she is worth opposing even in this weak field and will be having a little each way on SAMITAR currently 22/1 to spring a surprise.
This could be one of those where we are wondering how the hell we let the runaway winner of the 1000 Guineas go off evens in a worse race.
Well at least you can stop wondering now
Indeed. Perhaps a classy ‘Mudlark’? Still find it impossible to rational an 11 length "fluke". Perhaps flattered, but surely a worthy winner in the conditions.
That’s our 1,000 Guineas form blown out, so on that evidence I’m taking the 5/2 for Maybe to win the Oaks next week.
Well deserved win for Samitar flying the flag for the UK and a great ride by Martin Harley.Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...That’s our 1,000 Guineas form blown out, so on that evidence I’m taking the 5/2 for Maybe to win the Oaks next week.
Well deserved win for Samitar flying the flag for the UK and a great ride by Martin Harley.The same Maybe who was beat 10 lengths in the Guineas?
That’s our 1,000 Guineas form blown out, so on that evidence I’m taking the 5/2 for Maybe to win the Oaks next week.
Well deserved win for Samitar flying the flag for the UK and a great ride by Martin Harley.The same Maybe who was beat 10 lengths in the Guineas?
Yes the very same Maybe,is there another?
Just as the very same Power who was beaten 37 Lengths in the 2,000 Guineas, dotted up at the Curragh on Saturday.Once HQ had flown in the 1,000 what would have been the point in expending her energies, Aiden O’Brien and the Tabor partnership had the race sown up.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...That’s our 1,000 Guineas form blown out, so on that evidence I’m taking the 5/2 for Maybe to win the Oaks next week.
Well deserved win for Samitar flying the flag for the UK and a great ride by Martin Harley.The same Maybe who was beat 10 lengths in the Guineas?
Yes the very same Maybe,is there another?
Just as the very same Power who was beaten 37 Lengths in the 2,000 Guineas, dotted up at the Curragh on Saturday.Once HQ had flown in the 1,000 what would have been the point in expending her energies, Aiden O’Brien and the Tabor partnership had the race sown up.
Just interested as to why someone would write off the 1000 Guineas form as "blown out" and then back a horse beaten 10 lengths in that race for another Classic at 5/2. I’m not knocking your pick or saying it won’t win, just don’t understand your logic.
Just interested as to why someone would write off the 1000 Guineas form as "blown out" and then back a horse beaten 10 lengths in that race for another Classic at 5/2. I’m not knocking your pick or saying it won’t win, just don’t understand your logic.
It’s a woman’s logic, don’t even try to understand it.
Just trying to get inside the head of a very shrewd and tactical trainer.
By saying the Guineas form was ‘blown out’ I meant by the 10 lengths winner Homecoming Queen running so poorly today against what looked like a mediocre field.
I still strongly believe that the sad events of the day and the fact that the fillies were left standing around for 30 minutes in the freezing cold affected the outcome of the race. That’s just my take on the race.
I backed Power for the 2,000 at Newmarket strongly believing he would beat Camelot, he ran no race, but I got my money back on Saturday just by keeping faith in him. It’s just a feeling that Maybe will run a true race at Epsom in the Oaks and if she does she will take all the beating. Each way I’m going for Nayarra at 50/1 another Channon filly who loves a battle, so I expect another from your good self for that selection. Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Just interested as to why someone would write off the 1000 Guineas form as "blown out" and then back a horse beaten 10 lengths in that race for another Classic at 5/2. I’m not knocking your pick or saying it won’t win, just don’t understand your logic.
It’s a woman’s logic, don’t even try to understand it.
Just trying to get inside the head of a very shrewd and tactical trainer.
By saying the Guineas form was blown out I meant by the 11 lengths winner Homecoming Queen running so poorly today against what looked like a mediocre field.
I still strongly believe that the sad events of the day and the fact that the fillies were left standing around for 30 minutes in the freezing cold affected the outcome of the race. That’s just my take on the race.
I backed Power for the 2,000 at Newmarket strongly believing he would beat Camelot, he ran no race, but I got my money back on Saturday just by keeping faith in him. It’s just a feeling that Maybe will run a true race at Epsom in the Oaks and if she does she will take all the beating. Each way I’m going for Nayarra at 50/1 another Channon filly who loves a battle, so I expect another from your good self for that selection. Fair play, i’ll keep my rolling eyes to a minimum.
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