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    The Ranvet Stakes (G1 WFA 2000m) was run at Rosehill on Saturday, and there were some good trials from a BMW (2400m G1 WFA) and a Sydney Cup (3200m G1 Hcp) perspective.

    The result was Theseo won from Rangirangdoo, with Speed Gifted returning to form for 3rd.

    Looks like Theseo is going to the BMW and then to the Singapore International Cup, there is a slight query about him staying a strong 2400m though.

    Rangirangdoo failed to see out a strong 2000m, he’ll go to the Doncaster.

    Speed Gifted’s run was a lot better than his miserable last in the Chipping Norton, he’ll be hard to beat in the BMW.

    Daffodil was 4th, and she’s on track too.

    Other big runs were from No Wine No Song (totally unsuited at 2000m WFA, yet he just missed 4th with a barnstorming run – he won the 2008 Sydney Cup but he’d had only one run before February, he’s doing well), Divine Rebel, Moatize and Littorio.

    They look to be the main contenders for the BMW, the only other contenders I would think are Sirmione, Precedence, Master O’Reilly and Harris Tweed.

    I’m going to be at Rosehill for the BMW, can’t wait.

    On another note – Alcopop has flopped badly at his two runs this time in, and is going for a spell. Does not look anything like the horse who was favourite for the Melbourne Cup.

    #284724
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    I heard Freedman a few weeks ago, and although Speed Gifted would be an intended runner in the BMW, the race he thought would suit the horse more would be the Sydney Cup. Gave the impression that he didn’t think Speed Gifted was quite good enough to win the BMW.

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    That’s a surprise, and I reckon he can eat his words after the horse’s run in the Ranvet.

    Many people still believe he would have won the Caulfield Cup easily last year, although there is a bit of a boom around him down here.

    The one I think is peaking at the right time, just not sure if she is good enough though, is Divine Rebel. Her runs at the start of this prep were ordinary, but she seems to really be peaking now.

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    Thanks Andy, I’ll look her up sometime this week.

    Trainers tend to be cautious in what they say, so I may have been doing Freedman a disservice, but he definitely sounded a lot more confident about winning the Sydney Cup than the BMW.

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    Some clowns in Australia overhyped Speed Gifted to the extremities of stupidity last Spring. "Best horse racing in Australia" was bandied about numerous times and was always WAY off the mark in my opinion. All that based on his Metrop form? You must be joking!!! For mine he had no hope of taking the Caulfield Cup in 2009. The winner Viewed was in scintillating form that day. Speed Gifted is hardly a Gr1 WFA type for mine.

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    NO. :lol:

    Anyone backing him to win a MC is a dreamer. Yes, I have a humble pie going mouldy in the cupboard as I type. It should be very ripe come November. :P

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    My 80s got accepted a couple of days ago, so this one is now nicely tucked away in my portfolio.

    Don’t get fooled into thinking he is too slow , because he has been running in bumpers and hurdles – remember he is by Giant’s Causeway.

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    I agree they overhyped him – but our WFA ranks are extremely weak at the moment, especially on a staying front. And I can’t have Theseo over 2400m.

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    Thanks Andy, I’ll look her up sometime this week.

    :lol:

    When I just saw that she had come 2nd in the Sydney Cup last year, I realised that Divine Rebel was one of the list of six horses in my first ever post about Australian Racing, the day after the Epsom Derby last year!

    horse-racing/calling-all-fair-dinkum-cobbers-t77744.html

    As three of the six have won since, including at prices of 12/1 and 40/1, I had better keep her onside!

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    Well done Gerald!!! Well one of them got to the Melbourne Cup (Fiumicino), one should of (one of my favourite all time horses in Ready to Lift, she didn’t handle the Melbourne way of going, anticlockwise), one lost all form (Mr Tipsy), one was injured (Divine Rebel, she’ll probably be there this year) and the other two wouldn’t stay the distance.

    You’ve found out a lot since then!!!

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    With all due respect Gerald so had Vintage Crop. But he also won an Irish Leger and a Cesarewitch before winning Downunder. I’m prepared to risk Rite Of Passage until he competes at a higher level on the flat. Keep your powder dry until 2011 at least.

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    Perhaps go see Hills again and get a price for the 2010 Cesarewitch as a saver?

    #285045
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    does anyone know if septimus will be running this year?

    #285075
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    Septimus is a bit busy shagging at the moment – 4000 euros a pop.

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    I was half-asleep, but I think I just heard that

    Buccellati

    arrives in Australia at the weekend, possibly for an attempt on the Cox Plate.

    #285221
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    He’s been owned by Australians for a while as far as I’m aware.

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    A bit odd that he’s arriving now. Would have been better if he could have been in Oz for at least one run during their autumn. It’s an acclimitisation tactic that has worked well for others before. Might as well have stayed here to prep for the Melbourne spring. Yes, he was always going to Oz at some stage with the owners being from Downunder.

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