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I’m in no way suggesting Nick Williams is a poor trainer. I have two horses with the genius of South Molton and he managed to improve Dom D’Orgeval from a mark of 81 to 156 in two years after paying around Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£8,000 for him (I think). I just reckon that 33-1 is too big. If he wins on his debut for Pipe he could start at 12-1 or less on the day.