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    cubone
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    In the UK we have a Gambling Commission who,s aim is to protect the vunerable within the society,regrding Gambling.

    I have been watching with interest, the Numbers racket on TV,worse than all the efforts of Dutch Shultz and Bugsie Segal combined.

    A simple question of 12 times 2 plus 16 minus 7.

    People have telephoned through with answers as low as 6 to as high as 11,121.

    75P a call if you get through to make a choice or not it has been on for hours and I guess many 1000s have telephoned.

    The answer can be so many differing combinations that they havnt decided on the answer yet,

    When I get to the Pearly Gates and interviuwed by PETER.

    I just hope that the Producer of the program is in front of me <br>And my "An Away Bookmaker and Betfair Client" may just get me in.

    Cubone

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    Quote: from cubone on 11:45 pm on Aug. 13, 2006[br]<br>I have been watching with interest, the Numbers racket on TV,worse than all the efforts of Dutch Shultz and Bugsie Segal combined.

    A simple question of 12 times 2 plus 16 minus 7.

    People have telephoned through with answers as low as 6 to as high as 11,121.

    75P a call if you get through to make a choice or not it has been on for hours and I guess many 1000s have telephoned.

    The answer can be so many differing combinations that they havnt decided on the answer yet,

    Cubone

    Hmmm, would it be naive of me to think the answer is 33?  Or is there something I am missing here?

    Regarding the ethical dilemma of asking a question that is easy to answer, then charging 75p for every single attempt to get an answer other than "You have not been successful this time, please try again", I personally think it stinks.  There are many gullible people out there that are drawn in by an easy competition question.  They know the answer, as does every single other mug who rings the number, but little do they know that they could spend £30 on phone calls and STILL not be in the draw for a winner.<br>If I deem a question to be SO easy that everyone knows the answer, I simply don’t bother.<br>The only comps worth entering are the ones that don’t assume you have just left hospital after receiving a full labotomy of your frontal lobe and motor cortex.

    What is 1 + 1

    a) 1<br>b) 2<br>c) 3

    :bore:

    #75371

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    sorry racing 33 is incorrect.

    Cubone:biggrin:

    #75372

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    209? :biggrin:

    I know where this dilemma goes …

    12 x (2 + 16) – 7

    The other possibility is –

    132

    12 x (2 + 16 – 7)

    My opinion is that the question should include the parenthesis by default.

    Like I say, it stinks.

    #75373

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    Thats two guess you have had Racing <br>Wrong again. at 12.0 they said there was another 15 minutes left before revalation by 5m to 1,o they there still going strong.

    Even an answer of 0 and 1. followed by 11.199.

    Numbers 33 was given at least 5 times during the evening They must declare turn over I assume I wouldnt be surprised to see that this is an amazing racket.

    Cubone:angry:

    #75374

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    If I knew what channel this tripe were being broadcast on, I would email them and ask them to contact my maths teachers, (or for that matter ANY maths professor) for the answer.  It would be, lacking the parenthesis, 33 every time.<br>They are quite simply playing a game where there is no one correct answer.  They are also neglecting to define the whole question, which is, again, not on.  Surely that is against the law?<br>If I were to ask you the question "How many eggs are there in a basket", you would quite rightly be perplexed.  You would quite rightly tell me that it is a loaded question, as the question is unanswerable without knowing the volume of the basket or the size of the eggs.  Does the basket have a lid?  This is the same.  The question is incomplete without these details.

    I always thought that the answer was required to be defined before the question is even broadcast.<br>It appears to me that they are using the lottery rules and regs, or something similar, to play this racket.  I would also guess that the operator of this game is not based in the UK.<br>It doesn’t bother me personally, as I wouldn’t phone these things if you payed me.  Unfortunately, a fool and their money are far too easily parted.  These people know that.

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    (Edited by Racing Daily at 12:43 pm on Aug. 14, 2006)

    #75375

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    Nightmare if you had watched the program you would have noticed that Racing and several others had stated that is was 33 and told No.

    So your 75P is rather waisted dont you think.

    I have put your name with all due respect in the vunerable.

    Cubone:biggrin:

    #75376

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    The correct answer is 33 – anything else means that the question itself is incomplete!

    #75377

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    Ok you have missed the point. <br>Under the question it states count the numbers,

    so 12 x 2 = 24 plus 16 equal 40 minus 7 = 33

    However <br>(12) x (2) = ? plus (16) equals ? minus (7) and the numbers add up to

    12 plus 2 Plus 16 Plus 7 equals 23,,,what about that and neither numbers are correct

    That is why it is the Greatest Numbers Racket since the roaring 20s.

    Cubone;) 😉 😉

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    Purwell
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    Have a look here and all will be as clear as mud!

    http://www.calculator.org/CalcHelpCD/rpn.htm

    #75379

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    hi cubone

    the gambling commission is on the case, albeit slowly, with a consultation paper issued earlier this month

    http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/Cl … .asp?id=22

    low or no skill games that ape lotteries (which, as games of chance, are illegal to charge for in England and Wales unless you’re a charity or Camelot) have been around for a while but until recently have been used mainly for promotional reasons ancillary to other consumer products, rather than revenue-generators in themselves.

    this digital TV phenomenon goes in a different direction – rather than having an actual obvious answer, it uses the obvious answer as bait to suck in as many phone calls as possible.    once the "correct" answer is disclosed, it is often difficult to understand how it could have been arrived at.    

    for the most part (there have to be some hand-outs), it won’t be anything that most folk can work out up front, so – even after clearing the first hurdle of paying 75p to see if you’ll even be "chosen" by the computer to speak –  it starts to look like a matter of chance to clear the second hurdle of getting the answer, rather than arriving there by skill (either low skill or high skill).

    Channels of this kind are moneyspinners though, at least until around this time next year when the GC starts in earnest.

    "Participation TV" is the generic term.  

    Channel 4 run Quiz Call.     ITV runs ITV Play.    Channel 5’s owner RTL  has said its counting on quiz games ultimately to account for 25% of revenue.

    definitely a steer-clear on the phone side.

    <br>best regards

    wit<br>

    (Edited by wit at 3:28 pm on Aug. 14, 2006)

    #75380

    cubone
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    Purwell I only home that this stops just one old aged penshioner or 16 year old from giving away hard earned 75p

    Cubone

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    I must admit that I did get caught once. I only rang 4 times before the penny dropped so it only cost £3 but I bet there are people getting caught for hundreds because they do not make it obvious that you are charged every time you ring.

    #75382

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    Wit I cannot thank you enough thought I was going daft getting worried about un thinking vunerable.

    However I do get up tight about Scratch cards and these TV Games,

    I hope that they are banned

    Good Luck.

    Don

    #75383

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    Quote: from cubone on 2:00 pm on Aug. 14, 2006[br]Ok you have missed the point. <br>Under the question it states count the numbers,

    so 12 x 2 = 24 plus 16 equal 40 minus 7 = 33

    However <br>(12) x (2) = ? plus (16) equals ? minus (7) and the numbers add up to

    12 plus 2 Plus 16 Plus 7 equals 23,,,what about that and neither numbers are correct

    That is why it is the Greatest Numbers Racket since the roaring 20s.

    Cubone;) 😉 😉 <br>

    That’s deception IMO.  Clear as mud is right.<br>Just like those car ads that quote a car at £6,499 and show a car that costs £10,410 :angry:

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