November 26, 2017 at 14:45 #1328850
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Neither of them would’ve got within 10 lengths of SamcroNovember 26, 2017 at 14:55 #1328855
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Before rushing in to back samcro just give some thought to No More Heroes and Death Duty. They had similar profiles but were beaten.
Exactly why i think hes a crazy price
Mom elliot spoke as highly about DD last year at this point, what your sayong may very well prove to be true in the long run, but saying at this point last year DD wouldnt have gotten within 10 of samcro is fictional stuff
Hes a top prospect for sure, but tread lightly until theres substance, right now theres nothing, he won like a 1/4 should
Hes by far the best novice out so far, but not much has been put yet amd 5/2 is sill as of now, obviously it could end up being good, but were not in december yet..
November 26, 2017 at 19:16 #1328909
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To be fair to Gordon Elliot is still claims Death Duty was unwell at Cheltenham last March and hence didn’t run his race. To be honest I’ve always thought Death Duty looks a little one paced. That said he looks better over fem es than hurdles.
Samcro on the other hand looks something special. I think he’s in a different league to Death Duty. I backed him for the bumper last year but frustratingly he didn’t run. I managed to get on him early this year to win any race at 10-1 so feeling quite pleased with this bet at the moment. I’m not convinced we’re going to see anything better for this an Elliot seems to be aiming here with him. Here’s hoping.November 26, 2017 at 21:54 #1328943
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I am fully convinced Samcro is the next best thing, who could even surpass the ability of his half brother Faugheen.
Visually he couldn’t be more impressive, he travels supremely well, jumps fluently, and puts his races to bed with an effortless turn of foot.
But if you don’t trust your eyes, you can always relay on cold, hard numbers.Comparing his performance to the other hurdles at Navan today, he clocked by far the quickest time of the four hurdle races and did so going half a mile further than two of the other winners, 236.05 compared to the next best 242.53 which was over 2 miles.
His turn of foot is also reflected in the figures. He ran from 3 out to the line in 43.59s, 2.3s quicker than the next best time set by Ratoute Yutty in the opener over 2 miles.
All of this on the bridle. On his second start over hurdles.
Delta Work and Jetz may not win a Ballymore, but they are no mugs, and Samcro made them look exactly that.
People mentioned the likes of No More Heroes and Death Duty failing to justify the hype, but neither of those two were doing what this horse is doing. He’s streets ahead of them in my opinion.
I’m on him at 10/1 through 4/1, some on any race, but mainly for this, and Elliot’s comments today leaves little doubt this is his target. 5/2 may not be ‘value’ at this stage, but unless Willie discovers time travel and reverts Faugheen back to his novice days, I can’t see any other winner of the Ballymore. Next Destination looks like a very exciting horse, but not at this guys level.
This is a very, very special horse and I can’t wait to see what the future holds for him.
Call me a hype merchant, or a sensationalist, but I know, I just know, I will be proved right in March.November 27, 2017 at 00:17 #1328978
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Although it’s still a bit early to get a good grasp of the standard of the horses he’s beating, Samcro looks a better horse than Death Duty. Death Duty showed guts and guile last year and won most of his races after the last jump where he outbattled his rivals.
Smacro looks like he’s going through the gears and leaving everyone for dead much further out. He really does look like the second coming of Faugheen. Hopefully he stays well. Have him at 5s for this.November 27, 2017 at 01:31 #1328985
Elliott mistakenly ran Death Duty in the Albert Bartlett. I can’t see him doing it again with Samcro and Cooper rode a shocker on No More HeroesNovember 27, 2017 at 07:39 #1328991
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Another believer signing in. Hopefully he stays sound, because he is going to the top this fella, no doubt at all about that.December 7, 2017 at 18:52 #1330840
White Moon currently 7/4 with On The Blind Side 5/2 for the trial at Sandown tomorrow.
The latter conceding 5 pounds but I’d still make it the likelier winner.December 7, 2017 at 21:02 #1330862
OTBS is an Albert Bartlett horse I believe.
December 7, 2017 at 23:11 #1330889
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They expect so but it’s a Ballymore race tomorrowDecember 8, 2017 at 14:52 #1330970
Well that was impressive. I think it will probably go Albert Bartlett but i wouldn’t rule it out of the Ballymore completely. Henderson switched Bobs Worth late in the day a few years ago.
The 3 miler the easier to win, the Ballymore the more ” prestigious ” but a strong division this season.December 8, 2017 at 15:20 #1330973
The trainer now saying Ballymore over the Albert Bartlett. Last time he said Albert Bartlett. So who knows.December 17, 2017 at 13:05 #1332612
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Was really impressed with next destination there, made a few mistakes and looked uncomfortable at stages but still won very very easily, trip was too short for cracking smart, but hes no slouch and he easily dismissed him
Will be a player here.December 17, 2017 at 13:22 #1332616
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I too liked Next Destinations performance, especially the way he knuckled down and got on with the job after being caught out at the 2nd last a bit.
Whether or not he’s quite got the zip to win this I’m not too sure, but I think he’ll make a smashing 3 mile chaser one day.December 17, 2017 at 13:30 #1332618
He likes soft ground so Albert Bartlett makes more sense. Doing his best work in the last furlong and that’s on heavy. Don’t like him for this.
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