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    ham
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    Knee deep in the thick of the jumps season, im sure if you put the replays up once people start looking AP at these big flat races the interest will rise. I couldnt care less personally about whats happening in france atm even if its a pointer to big flat meetings but i still read the threads…

    You should post things because you want to, not everything has to have multiple responses for it to be worthwhile, im sure there are many people when they see your name on a thread just read/watch without commenting… thats enough recognition…

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    stevecaution
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    I’ll be the judge thank you Ham.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Nathan Hughes
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    Trainer is saying they are thinking of heading to the Sandy Lane at Haydock next with Sands of Mali

    Don't Eat The Pie and Don't Buy The S*n
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    ham
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    ok steve, thats fantastic.

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    Nathan Hughes
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    I suppose going by what O’Brien has said Clemmie could end up in this

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    You are welcome Ham. I’ll make a deal with you. I won’t tell you the way I think it works, if you can consent to the same.

    • This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by stevecaution stevecaution.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1350801

    ham
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    deal steve, i couldnt care less however you think it works :wacko: i only responded to this because i was laughing about the attention seeking lol

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    Middle_Of_March
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    In fairness steve, we are well into the jumps season.

    The race in question isn’t until late June so it’s a bit harsh to moan about the lack of interest.

    Other than saying that I’ve had no bet since heartache at 16s mentioned in page 1, I’m not sure what else I could add to it. If you want my opinion on sands of Mali, I don’t think he’s shown anywhere near enough last season personally. But I didn’t think that was constructive so didn’t say it here until now.

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    Jesus, the delicious irony of it.

    If anyone is attention seeking it’s the person sticking their nose in to add their tuppenceworth out of the blue.

    :whistle:

    I don’t see any moan there looking back through it MOM.

    At the end of the day I am spending my time trying to point out potential contenders and if the appetite isn’t there I will save my time by not bothering. It’s no big deal. Not bothering is easy, no loss on my part.

    I thought Sands Of Mali made a good comeback in the Sigy. I felt it showed he had trained on and his appearance on the day suggested the trainer’s feeling that he had filled out was correct.

    The Racing Post rated Sands Of Mali 114 for the Sigy run and that’s just 1 lb below his impressive Gimcrack win at York. Fahey’s colt had one mysteriously bad run in the Middle Park but he followed that with a good run in the Breeder’s Cup over a mile, where he gave it a good go from the front and led horse’s like Mendelssohn until stamina gave out.

    The Commonwealth Cup was confirmed as his target and if Sands Of Mali didn’t show anywhere near enough last season, he still had a higher rating than Heartache on both RPR and Offical ratings. He is also higher rated than Different League on RPRs.

    Only four firms quote Sands Of Mali for the Commonwealth Cup but that won’t remain the case once the other firms pull their heads out of their asses and realise the Horse will be there. The Prix Maurice De Gheest is said to be where they want to go with Sands Of Mali after The Commonwealth Cup, as Fahey reckons the 6 and a half furlong trip will be ideal.

    There we have it. Information given to be digested or ignored depending on the level of interest on the part of forum members. :good:

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    I do appreciate the info steve don’t get me wrong. I just think that by people not commenting, doesn’t mean we aren’t interested. Certainly that’s true in my case.

    I’m suprised by sands of Mali having a higher RPR than Heartache. Can’t believe that but I will of course take your word for it.

    I really think this years 3 year old sprinters will prove to be inferior to last years top notch crew of Caravaggio, Harry Angel and Blue Point. Was Battaash a three year old too?

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    I don’t think this year’s crop are as good either MOM. All the more reason to look for early value.

    Seeing US Navy Flag as 6/1 favourite just made me feel there must be better options.

    US Navy Flag was a drifter on his comeback and O’Brien said he would come on a ton for the race. The fact is that he will need to come on a ton and a half after registering just 76 when 15 lengths adrift of Gustav Klimt in the 2000 Guineas Trial at Leopardstown.

    It sounded as if US Navy Flag was still on course for Newmarket and the Guineas, so assuming he runs there and succeeds, he’ll stay at a mile. If he gets rerouted to the Commonwealth Cup he will have had 13 races by then and be on a downward curve. At generally 6/1 US Navy Flag looks poor value.

    Paddy Power have Heartache at 6/1 as their favourite for this race and anyone playing her now has missed the 16/1 available (and recommended) not that long ago, so there is value unveiled in this thread for those interested. That’s what these early threads on races is all about.

    Those replying to this thread should be coming in with a view to contributing something to the discussion of the race and not arriving to make personal digs. (Of course perhaps it’s all about grabbing attention for themselves and trying to hide it by accusing an already active contributor to the thread (and one who is focusing on the horses themselves) of the same.

    Battaash was 3YO last season but he wasn’t ready in time for the Commonwealth Cup and started instead in the Scurry Stakes at Sandown. He was/is probably a 5F horse anyway.

    Hopefully we will have one or two bits of value by the time the race comes around, and not be scratching about for each-way value, which often seems to be the case for punters come the week of the race.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Steve, my missus found that her terrible PMT virtually stopped, when she started having the injection every month. :good:

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    Any word about the Commonwealth Cup Nausered, or are you just here to stir the excrement as well?

    “My missus” is such a typical sexist comment by the way. I know my wife is savvy enough to see it for what it is. I’m not poking into your input, what gives you the right to do it to me?

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    I thought, given her trainer, Happy Like A Fool might be one to look at. But she looked disappointing on her seasonal reappearance, appearing to struggle for pace for most of the race and not really picking up when asked.

    There are two that I really like for this:

    UNFORTUNATELY. Was really impressive when winning the Prix Morny G1 in France, beating Havana Grey, Different League and Zonza. His run in the Middle Park was strange; he was slow out, but came travelling really well before weakening like a non-stayer. I can forgive that, maybe he just doesn’t like Newmarket. His trainer has stated this will be his target and I think the market is forgetting him at a best price of 16s.

    TAKE ME WITH YOU. Would have won the Albany had she been drawn on the correct side, and as long as she’s overcome her setback she could improve well into her 3yo season. Has Ascot form and could be anything. I can’t even find a price for her on Oddschecker, so I’ll have to go scouting.

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    Who’s stirring? It’s you getting your knickers in a twist about nothing B-)

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