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    fivelongdays
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    It’s early doors yet but when the man who first tipped One For Arthur and the man who second tipped Tiger Roll both mention a horse for the Grand National it behoves me to listen, so my first speculative bet for next year’s National is Missed Approach.

    Also, he may not be going to win five Gold Cups at any point soon, but Elegant Escape looks like the sort of horse who’ll stay and stay and stay, so he’ll be carrying some of my money, too.

    Tiger Roll? 100s for the Gold Cup is silly, and he’s worth an each way punt for that. If he were mine, that’s where I’d send him. Right now, he’s not going to be on my shortlist, but I fear that, if he runs at Aintree next year, I won’t be able not to back him.

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    So don't run, just like the others always do

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    Lemons68
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    I don’t think I would want a bet in this until The Autumn, but I have 3 on my mind right now.

    Ballyoptic 66-1

    Thomas Patrick 40-1

    Vyta Du Roc, who’s not got a quote yet

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    peter .h
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    The jumps returning today has got my imagination running towards next April. Naturally got a longlist to stew over for the next several months…

    Ballyoptic – will probably cool on him as I’m unsure how genuine he is, but looks a marathoner in the making.
    Rathvinden – was gutted he got withdrawn after his Cheltenham win. Will very much like his chances should things go well.
    Ultragold – will he stay? Won’t have any troubles with the course and is more a loyalty selection as he’s done plenty for me over the years.
    Ms Parfois – was my sure thing of the Festival, but was just denied. Has that battling quality one likes in a National horse.
    Ziga Boy – could be a forgotten horse. Looked like a proper National type a couple seasons ago.
    Whisper – might need to drop a pound or two, but is a class act and has this written all over him.
    Un Temps Pour Tout – could have been a Gold Cup horse had things gone better. A really likable type who should stay and jumps wonderfully.
    Houblon Des Obeaux – I’ll never give up hope! If he’s as well handicapped as he was this year; I still reckon he’d go close! That said he does need to get in… And get the ground.

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    Peter, I’ll be keen to be with Ziga again if they can get him back, and last update I read was that he was on track.

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    My first antepost bet is MINELLA ROCCO @ 50/1 EW. Think the national could be his target. The handicapper has given him a chance off 157 and hopfully connections will knock a few more off before the weights come out. Negatives is soft ground but willing to take a risk at 50/1. He has the engine just need Jon jo to hit form for the first time in a decade

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    Good luck with him ATP, got a real soft spot for him, and I’m sure if Jonjo has this as the target, he won’t be running off of his current mark.

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    Missed Approach still very much my #1 for this, but been chipping away at a few others quietly, and the one who I think is most interesting at this stage is Fagan.

    He’s very risky, as he’s been difficult to keep sound, and even the price available just now hints that all might not be well. Also, a repeat of this years ground would see him an absentee, but he’s on a lovely mark, and I could see him take this in, via something like The Kim Muir, or The Cross Country. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet.

    Fagan 200’s+

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    Bit of encouraging news today from Warren Greatrex.

    Early days, but he’s at least confirmed that Missed Approach is being targeted for The National. Time to start chipping away a bit more at the 50’s.

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    peter .h
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    What’s the chances of them sending Lilrockerfella here as a novice? :whistle:

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    MarkTT
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    A potential target for Master Dee

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    THIS IS NOT A TIP

    It might have gone unnoticed by some but two previous Grand National contenders had a outing today. First we had The Young Master (TYM) who fell when the race was won by One For Arthur (OFA) a couple of years ago. He also fell when Vieux Lion Rouge (VLR) won his Bechers Chase and 6th in Blaklion (Bl) Bechers Chase beaten 27 lengths.

    Just behind him was Traffic Fluid who did not have a top 4 placings in a 27.5 furlongs or further race. At least that has now been corrected so this year he’ll get that chance.

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    I’m hoping that as many members as possible of the late lamented grandnationalguide blog will congregate on this thread throughout the coming months….

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    Have just had my first bets on Missed Approach and Ballyoptic; may add Thomas Patrick although I think he’s a bit young for the race [Hennessy more likely perhaps] but he’s the sort of ‘story horse’ that the National is all about.

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    I’m staying away from betting on the National until the entries are out, and maybe the weights. In the past done EW betting but I’m so confident in my approach that it’ll be win only to try and boost my winnings. Having said that this year I will probably not get the winner.

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    viktors89
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    Another one with Missed Approach at 50s.

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