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    With mullins not giving elliot the same headstart as last year im not too sure hed be to concerned about the trainers title, elliot would need to be a million infront by punchestown to have a realistic chance, not to mention it seems like elliots is having much the same start to the season as mullins did last year

    But nontheless i have to agree with you, i cant see him sending AB over, but wont do to much damage having a squeak at 20s

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    Lemons68
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    I have added Vyta Du Roc at 33-1 each way to go with American.

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    lol Joe, re: Ptit Zig, they’ve surely worked on that jumping of his.

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    Very much in the American camp. Easily one of the more exciting horses of the season for me. I’ll be backing him in pretty much everything as i can easily see him developing into either a Gold Cup or Grand National horse, the latter seeming tailor made for him. Missed all the bigger prices, but I’ll be lumping on with a fair degree of confidence should be line up in this.

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    Another one we agree on Peter. I’ll be disappointed if this boy don’t go close.

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    I’ve had a saver on A Genie In Abottle in this. He looks another who is tailor made for the race. Judging by the form of last years Irish novices he could still have a good few lbs in hand and, if Coneygree stays in, will go off a lovely racing weight. 25/1 with Hills :good:

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    I like your Vyta du Roc bet Lemons and he is my first bet for this race at 25s (I don’t have an account with the firms offering 33s).

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    Good luck GReenasgrass, I think he is great value for this :good:

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    I was thinking about backing Whisper at 14/1 but looking at it again, if Coneygree doesn’t run then he’d end up top weight and I’m not sure that’s ideal for such a moderately sized animal.

    Instead I’ve nibbled at the 33/1 on offer about Champers On Ice to go with my American bet (8/1). He’s already won on the hurdles course at Newbury and goes very well on soft ground so the more rain the merrier. He’s still only 7 so the right age for the type of second season novice this race attracts and has plenty of time for improvement in him. He’s had two runs over 3 miles over fences, one when hacking up at 1/5 in a weak Uttoxeter event and the other a gallant second to American at Warwick on level weights. Should they both arrive at Newbury next month then Harry Fry’s charge will have to concede a full stone to the Pipe horse and you can’t say that doesn’t encourage connections that a reverse in form is possible. I hope they run.

    I’ve also had a tiny bit on Double Ross at 40/1 who would run off a 2 pound lower mark than when 3rd in this last year to Native River. He had an out-of-character mishap at Sandown over the weekend but appeared none-the-worse for it and completed the full course with the other runners so has effectively had 2 races so far this season; the same as he had going into this last year. The stable’s in form and I’d be interested to see if they put Jamie Bargary or Zac Baker up.

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    I already have a little on Whisper but share your concerns over weight with this small horse. He looked well in himself the other day I thought and should be well primed mind you.

    I see that Vyta du Roc has a Becher entry so chance will not run in this. If ground good would be interested in the other Henderson runner O O Seven

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    Think I’ve done my dough here with Codelco. Seen nothing to enthuse about in his first 2 runs, and a mountain to climb now.

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    Bobby, judging on his head carriage today he looks like he needs a breathing op

    Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/

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    Yeah Joe, think you’re right. I’m not a very good judge of the physical side of things like yourself, but I can spot the odd problem, and I could tell today he wasn’t right.

    I’ve written him off now, and left with American as my Ladbroke/Cheltenham Gold Cup Double horse this year, but compared to Codelco, it’s a small one, and not in the same league as Native River last year.

    I’m not hanging about looking for a replacement though, and after having a long look at Royal Vacation, I’ve went for Cogry at 33’s.

    After his jumping problems of last year, he looked a different horse for winning over timber. His second in The Scottish National was a career best, it was some run, so close, and he may just be a target horse. I thought he was very impressive last time at Cheltenham, and he beat the current third favourite for this, Singlefarmpayment, who we’re both big fans of, and SFP is as low as 15-2. SFP will be a few pounds better off, but maybe not enough to justify the big difference in price here.

    Might be immaterial if those jumping issues resurface, and he’ll have some nice horse in there against him, but at 33’s, worth a go each way.

    That leaves me with…..

    American 16’s Win
    Cogry 33’s EW
    Double Ross 40’s EW

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    Amyone know if Champers is coming here or if it’s one of those entries which is just a toe in the water ?

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    In his are stable tour (late October) Pipe said:

    A frustrating time last season in a way, because we had extremely high hopes of him, having finished third in the Albert Bartlett. Equally, I shouldn’t have run him over 2m5f at Cheltenham, it was too short a trip. He jumps left so has to go left-handed and he needs to sharpen up his jumping, but I’m sure there’s a lot more to come over 3m, maybe a bit further – it wasn’t the trip that beat him in the four-miler at Cheltenham, he just made too many mistakes. Could start in the ‘Fixed Brush’ over hurdles at Haydock to boost his confidence, and he might be the type for the Welsh National.

    Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/

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